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sLivMdr isMG igwl

mY ‘iswK mfrg’ dy pfTkF dI syvf ivc spwsLt krnf cfhuMdf hF ik suKdyv isMG kYlyPornIaF shI gwl nhI kr rhy aqy myry ilKy ‘isK mfrg’ qy Cpy pwqr nUM afpxI soc muqfbk qRoV- mroV ky ilK rhy hn "ik bfxI rcnhfry iek afm ivakqI dI qrF hI sn aqy AuhnF dI bfxI vI iek afm kvI dI rcnf qoN vwD nhIN ho skdI" lwK lfhxq hY aijhI soc vfilaF nUM. aijhI glq gwl qF koeI mhF mUrK hI socygf jF soc skdf hY.

ieh vI ho skdf hY ik myrI ilKI geI gwl nUM glq smJ ilaf hovy (glq ieMtrptysLn kfrn) . mYN gurbfxI rcn vfilaF dy pMj BUqk srIr bfbq hI iliKaf hY ik Auh mnuwKI jfmy ivc mhF pursL hI khy jf skdy hn . srIrk ikiraf pwKoN (Bfv Auh KFdy, pINdy, sAuNdy, ikrqI, pRvfrk jIvn vfly, grmIN srdI ibmfrI nUM Jwlx vfly) mnuwKF vFg hI anuBv krdy sn. pr afqmk sUJ pwKoN Auh mhFn sn. afm mnuwK vFg nhIN sn. iesy leI mY AunHF nUM mhFpurK afKdf hF.

mY ieh vI spwsLt krnf cfhuMdf hF ik myrf sbjYkt-ivsLf jF PIlz ieMjinarirMg hY. mY ruVkI XUnIvristI, ruwVkI qoN mfstr aOP isvl ieMj[ pI[ aYc[ eI[ krn AuprMq gurU nfnk ieMj[ kflj ivc 34 sfl bI[ aYs[ sI[ isvl ieMj[ klfsF nUM ieMnvfiermYNntl ieMj[ dy sbjYkt pVHFdf irhf hF. Dfrimk igafn myrf PIlz nhIN hY. pr mY vI sLbd gurU sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI nUM pUrf siqgurU mMndf hF. hor vI bQyry mMndy hovxgy pr bhuqy AuqNo AuqoN khn-khfvx qwk hI sImq hn. gurU sLbd ivc cuwBI lfAuxI aqy bfxI nUM smJn df Xqn krnf hI locdF hF.

mY 100% mMndf hF ik bfxI rcn vfly afqmk qOr qy afm mnuwKF nfloN bhuq Aucy sn. AunHF nUM bRhm df igafn sI. AunHF ny afpxI rcI ielfhI bfxI ivc bRhm nUM hI afDfr bxfieaf hY. bRhm, prmfqmf (swc) vfsqy vriqaf igaf lPLj hY aqy Auh hsqI iek hY. do jF vwD nhIN hn.

pRoPYsr sfihb isMG jI ny ÃÄ dy arQ idqy hn "Auh hsqI jo iek hY ijs vrgf hor koeI nhIN hY aqy ijs ivc sfrf jgq smf jFdf hY. Auh hsqI iek rs ivafpk hY Bfv Aus Auqy smyN nfl qbdIlI nhIN afAuNdI. iesy hsqI nUM bRhm dwisaf igaf hY.

s[ suKdyv isMG jI agr qusI gurbfxI nUM swc mMndy ho qF gurbfxI dI quwk "bRhmigafnI sd jIvY nhI mrqf" dy arQ bfxI rcn hfiraf dy pMj BUqk srIrF muqwlk qusI kI soc rKdy ho, dwsx dI Kycl krnI .

dfs,

sLivMdr isMG igwl [

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf)

s[ suKdyv isMG jI dy svfl df jvfb.

gurbfxI dy aDfr qy srdfr jI quhfzf koeI svfl bxdf hI nhI ies krky mYN jvfb ilKx dI koisLsL nhI kIqI. qusIN ieh iliKaf hY ik mYN BgqF nUM bRhmigafnI mMndf hF. iks aDfr qy qusIN gurU Purmfx dy Ault jf ky ieh mnOq KVI krdy ho?

bRhmigafnI suK shj invfs ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kf nhI ibnfs ]5] {pMnf 273}

bRhmigafnI bRhm kf byqf ] bRhmigafnI eyk sMig hyqf ] bRhmigafnI kY hoie aicMq ] bRhmigafnI kf inrml mMq ] bRhmigafnI ijsu krY pRBu afip ] bRhmigafnI kf bz prqfp ] bRhmigafnI kf drsu bzBfgI pfeIaY ] bRhmigafnI kAu bil bil jfeIaY ] bRhmigafnI kAu Kojih mhysur ] nfnk bRhmigafnI afip prmysur ]6] {pMnf 273}

gurU sfihb dIaF ieh pMgqIaF dwsdIaF hn ik bRhmigafnI mrdf nhI qy bRhmigafnI nUM sfry bRhm df pqf hY. akfl purK vfih gurU jI afp hI bRhmigafnI hn.

bRhmigafnI kI giq bRhmigafnI jfnY ]

ies pMgqI muqfbk s[ suKdyv isMG jI qusIN iksy bRhmigafnI dI pihcfx nhI kr skdy qy bRhmigafnI df pqf vI bRhmigafnI nUM hI lwgdf hY.

bRhmigafnI sB isRsit kf krqf ] bRhmigafnI sd jIvY nhI mrqf ] bRhmigafnI mukiq jugiq jIa kf dfqf ] bRhmigafnI pUrn purKu ibDfqf ] bRhmigafnI anfQ kf nfQu ] bRhmigafnI kf sB AUpir hfQu ] bRhmigafnI kf sgl akfru ] bRhmigafnI afip inrMkfru ] bRhmigafnI kI soBf bRhmigafnI bnI ] nfnk bRhmigafnI srb kf DnI ]8]8] {pMnf 273-274}

pMizq sUr CqRpiq rfjf, Bgq brfbir aAuru n koie ] jYsy purYn pfq rhY jl smIp, Bin rivdfs jnmy jig Eie ]3]2] {pMnf 858}

BgqF nUM mYN iksy nfloN Cotf nhI smJdf. gurbxI dwsdI hY ik Bgq swB qoN AuWpr hn. s[ suKdyv isMG jI quhzIaF icwTIaf mYN pihlF vI keI vfr pVHIaF hn. bgYr iksy gwl dy mIzIey ivc vV bihx nUM mYN cMgf nhI smJdf ies krky mYN quhfzI icwTI df jvfb nhI iliKaf. purfxy iKaflF dI pwtI lfh mfro qy nvyN iKaflF nUM apnfAux dI koisLsL kro jI. DMnvfd.

quhzf vIr.

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf)

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suKdyv isMG kYlyPornIaf

sR[ gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf jI dfs ny pihlI icTI ivc afp jI nUM kuJ svfl kIqy sn ik gurU sfihbfn aqy BgqF nUM bRhm igafnI smJdy ho ik nhIN, pr afp jI ny ies df jvfb dyx dI Kycl nhIN kIqI. ies qoN pihlF ik afpF ies ivcfr nUM hor awgy qorIey asIN ies bfry afp jI dy ivcfr jfnxy cfhuMdy hF. jykr afp vI sLivMdr isMG igwl dI qrHF AuhnF nUM isrP pursL (vwD qoN vwD mhFpursL) smJdy ho qF sfnUM hor vIcfr nhIN krnI cfhIdI ikAuNik gurbfxI dy afDfr qy hI afpF vIcfr krnI hY aqy jykr bfxI dy rcxhfry iek afm ivakqI dI qrHF hI sn qF AuhnF dI bfxI vI iek afm kvI dI rcnf qoN vD nhIN ho skdI. iksy vI vwzy qoN vwzy kvI dI rcnf qy ikMqU pRMqU kIqf jf skdf hY pr gurbfxI qy nhIN.

asIN sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI nUM sMpUrn gurU mMndy hF.sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI bRhm df igafn bKsLdy hn. bRhm sLbd pRmfqmf (swc) vfsqy vriqaf igaf hY. bfxI dI rcnf krn vfilaF nUM bRhm df sMpUrn igafn sI aqy Auh swc df hI rUp ho gey sn. gurbfxI df Purmfx hY :-

khu nfnk guir bRhmu idKfieaf ]

mrqf jfqf ndir n afieaf ]4]4]

kbIr mnu sIqlu Bieaf pfieaf bRhm igafnu ]

ijin juaflf jgu jfiraf su jn ky Audk smfin ]175]

ab qAu jfie cZy isMGfsin imly hY sfirMgpfnI ]

rfm kbIrf eyk Bey hY koie n skY pCfnI ]6]3]

sUrj ikrix imly jl kf jlu hUaf rfm ]

joqI joiq rlI sMpUrnu QIaf rfm ]

bRhmu dIsY bRhmu suxIaY eyku eyku vKfxIaY ]

afqm psfrf krxhfrf pRB ibnf nhI jfxIaY ]

afip krqf afip Bugqf afip kfrxu kIaf ]

ibnvMiq nfnk syeI jfxih ijnÙI hir rsu pIaf ]4]2]

ieQy AuhnF dI afqimk avsQf ibafn kIqI geI hY nf ik AuhnF dy pMj BUqk srIr dI gl hoeI hY. gurbfxI gurU vI smJfAudyN hn ik srIr qF imiQaf hY, nfsLvfn hY pr ies ivc vsdy swc dI pCfx kr lvo. gurbfxI df Purmfx hY :-

sfDo iehu qnu imiQaf jfnAu ]

Xf BIqir jo rfmu bsqu hY sfco qfih pCfno ]1] rhfAu ]

asIN iksy srIr dy bRhm igafnI hox dI gwl nhIN krdy. asIN quhfzy nfl ivcfr ies krky nhIN kr rhy ik sfzy kol koeI bRhm igafnI (mnuK) bYTf hY. bfxI bfry qusIN afpxy ivcfr pysL kr rhy ho aqy asIN afpxy ivcfr dy rhy hF. jykr asIN iksy bRhm igafnI nUM nhIN jfxdy qF iesdf mqlb ieh nhIN ik koeI bRhm igafnI nhIN hY. ijAux vflf jI, quhfzy jvfb dI AuzIk ivc……

suKdyv isMG kYlyPornIaf

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sLivMdr isMG igwl

siqkfr Xog s[ mwKx isMG jI,

ipCly hPLqy Cpy imsLnrI surjIq isMG jI dy lyK "bfxI jpu c sicafrf df sMklp" ivc siqnfmu dy glq arQ qo Cuwt hor vI glqIaF hn jo BulyKf pfAuNdIaF hn aqy "isK mfrg" nUM DuMDlf krdIaF hn jo ik isK mfrg dy pfTkF dy noits ivc ilafAuxIaF cfhIdIaF hn :

1[ imsLnrI jI ilKdy hn ik sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI aMdr rfgF dy afrMB c vI mMglfcrn afpxy sMpUrn srUp c drj hY. ieh scfeI nhIN hY. kuJ rfgF dy afrMB ivc ijvy ik sRI rfg, rfg quKfrI, rfg kydfrf dy afrMB ivc mMglfcrn sMpUrn rUp ivc nhIN hY.

2[ ilKdy hn ik mMglfcrn df jpu jI bfxI joik "socY soic n hoveI[[[" qoN sLurU huMdI hY nfl koeI sMbMD nhIN . iksy nUM kI hwk hY ik gurbfxI dy iek ihsy nUM mMglfcrn jF mUl mMqr afiKaf jfvy qy vKrf disaf jfvy. gurbfxI nUM gurbfxI kihxf hI sLoBf idMdf hY. sfzy tksflIaF df mUl mMqr vI vwKrf hY. aigafnqf kfrn hI awj asI bIjmMqr, mUl mMqr, mMglf crn aqy "duwK BMjnI sfihb" dIaF vMzF pf rhy hF. so jpujI gurbfxI ÃÄ qoN sLurU ho ik kyqI CutI nfil.. smfpq[

3[ imsLnrI jI ilKdy hn ik ..jpu.. isrlyK hY. sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb ivc hor iksy vI gurbfxI dy isrlyK ijvy ik sodru, soihlf, bfrh mfhf afid dy isrlyKF nUM dovy pfsy do-do zMzy nhIN lwgy hoey. so ieh ..jpu.. spYsLl Aucycy arQ rKdf hY. gurbfxI hY, AupdysL hY. ieh inrf 38 pfAuVIaF vflI bfxI nfl sImq nhIN kIqf jf skdf. sgoN sfry sRI gurU gRMQ sihb jI dI smucI bfxI nfl sMbMDq hukm hY. jpu df arQ ismrn, bMdgI, Bjn hY jo ik dUjIaF mwqF nfloN vKry arQ rKdf hY.

4 sicafrf bxn df AupdysL sfrI gurbfxI idMdI hY. Bfv sfrI gurbfxI mnuwK nUM sicafrf bxn leI agvfeI bKLsLdI hY.

dfs,

sLivMdr isMG igwl.

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hrijMdr isMG (torFto)

sqpfl isMG vIr jI

vfihgurU jI kf KLflsf] vfihgurU jI kI PLiqh]

siqkfr Xog vIr jIE afp jI df dUjf pwqr dfs ny piVHaf. ies vfr afp jI ny nPrq BrI jLihr dI vfCV dfs vwl kuJ ijLafdf krn dI ikrpflqf kr idwqI. koeI gwl nhIN. iek gwl hor dfs ny qF kyvl gurbfxI dI gwl hI kIqI sI, kI gurbfxI dI gwl krnI gflF hn? ies df PYslf pfTkF Aupr Cwz idMdy hF. rhI gwl nsIhqF dI dfs ies dy Xog nhIN hY ik Auh iksy nMU nsIhqF dy sky hF gurbfxI pVHn qy ivcfrn dI bynqI kIqI geI sI. iek bynqI hor Auh ieh ik dfs nMU afpjI df pwqr iPr smJ nhIN ipaf ikAuNik ieh pqf nhIN lwgdf ik ikhVI gwl afpjI myry bfry kr rhy ho qy ikhVI gurpRIq isMG aqy ijAux vflf jI leI. aglI vfr afp jI ies df inKyVf krn dI ikrpflqf krnI jI. iek bynqI ieh vI hY ik pwqr ivc afp jI jy kr iek ivcfr idAu qF smJxf soKf ho jFdf hY nhIN qF afp jI vloN ikqoN lwq aqy ikqoN bFh PVn krn krky kuWJ pqf nhIN lwgdf ik afp jI kI Purmfn kr rhy ho?

hoor bynqI ik kI qusI gurbfxI nMU afps ivc ivcfrn aqy duibDf dUr krn df iek vDIaf ZMg nhIN smJdy qF iPr afp gurbfxI bfry gwl hI ikAuN krdy ho jI ?

afp jI ny ikhf ik :

"gurbfxI gurU AuwcI swucI ikrq krn aqy nfm ismrn dI jugqI vI bKisLsL krdI hY. vIr jI ies sbk ƒ vI iswKx df Xqn krnf."

so vIr jIE afp jI ieh dwsx dI ikrpflqf krogy ik Auh jugqI ikhVI hY ijhVI ies mUrK BUwlV vloN sfihb sRI gurU gMRQ sfihb jI koloN awjy nhIN iswKI jf skI. dfs afpjI df aiq DMnvfdI hovygf jykr afpjI ies bfry cfnxf pfAux dI ikrpflqf kroNgy qf ik dfs dy nfl-nfl bfkI pfTk vI ies df lfhf lY skx?

dUjf sfihb sRI gurU gMRQ sfihb jI dI byadbI koeI nhIN kr irhf. vYsy afp jI dy svflF jF bRhm igafnI bfry, smrf jI qy ksyl jI dy nfl-nfl hor pfTk swjx vI jfnx leI Auqsuk hn ik ijs bRhm igafnI bfry afp jI ieMnf jLor lf rhy ho Auh ikhVy hn ? kI afpjI hI qF ikqy Auh bRhm igafnI aKvfAux leI cfhvfn qF nhIN ijs bfry afp jI ny ieh jLihr Bry pwqr duKI ihrdy nfl ilK mfry ?

afp jI afpxy pwqr df isrlyK hukmu pCfnY su eyko jfnY, bMdf khIaY soeI ] df idqf hY. iesy ivsLy qy iswK mfrg dy ies hPqy dy lyKF ivc srbjIq isMG jI muMbeI vfilaF df lyK afp jI pVHn dI jLrUr ikrpflqf krnI. qF ik afp jI vI ieh jfx sko ik iks nUM gLlqPLihmI hY.

kuJ bynqIaF pfTkF nMU vI, ik Auh ies bfry afpxy ivcfr dyx:

1[ kOx gLlqPLihmI ivc hY

2[ gflF kOx kwZ irhf hY

2[ gurbfxI ikhVy bRhmigafnI dI gwl krdI hY

4[ kOx by dlIlI bKLIlI kr irhf hY

myrI pfTk swjxF nMU bynqI hY ik ies bfry jLrUr afpxy ivcfr dyx jI.

hF nfly vIr sqpfl isMG jI ies gwl dI dfs nMU pRsMnqf hoeI ik afp jI ny BulyKy ivc af ky afpxy nF nfl joiVaf "mrn vflf" Aup nF htf ilaf.

ipCly pwqr ivc jykr koeI kOVf bcn ilK ho igaf hY qF dfs dovyN hwQ joV ky Aus dI iKmf mMgdf hY.

afp swjx jI smyq hor pfTk swjxF dy ivcfrF dI AuzIk ivc,

dfs hrijMdr isMG (torFto)

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avqfr isMG imsLnrI

gurU gRMQ pRcfr imsLn afP USA vloN Gr Gr ivwc Drm pRcfr sLurU

sfzy gurUaF BgqF df imsLn sI-Gir Gir aMdir Drmsfl hovY kIrqn sdf vsoaf (Bf[gurdfs jI) ijs nUM asIN Buldy jf rhy hF. iksy vI gurU jF Bgq ny vwzIaF vwzIaF iblizMgF nhIN sI bxfeIaF pr sMgqF joV ky Gr Gr, ngr KyVy aqy dysL ivdysL ivwc Drm pRcfr krky lokfeI nUM swc nfl joiVaf aqy vwzy iekwTF ivwc jf ky vI aijhf kIqf. gurbfxI nUM iswKx isKfAux dy Auprfly krky sMgqF ivwc gurbfxI pVHn ivcfrn dI rIq clfeI ijs nUM asIN awj kyvl qy kyvl pfT krn krfAux qwk hI sImq krdy jf rhy hF. gurU df iswK hryk mfeI BfeI afpxI ikrq kmfeI kridaF hoieaF gurbfxI df pRcfr krdf sI. iswKI ikrqI iswKF duafrf hI dUr dUr qwk PYlI sI jy iswKF ny DrmsLflf gurduafry afidk bxfey vI sn qF sMgqF rl iml ky EQy syvf krdIaF sn pr jd dy Drm asQfn kmrsLIal ho gey hn iswKI pRPuwilq nhIN hoeI sgoN ismt geI hY. hryk iswK df Prj hY Auh afpxy ivwq anusfr Drm pRcfr kry so ies leI ieh Auprflf kIqf jf irhf hY.

ies pRogRfm anusfr Gr ivwc jpujI sfihb jI df pfT, sLbd kIrqn aqy gurbfxI df ivcfr ivtFdrf rl iml ky kIqf jFdf hY. koeI Aucycy lMgrF dI loV nhIN ikAuNik pRvfr df sfrf smF afE Bgq ivwc hI lMG jFdf hY. ieh pRogRfm lokfcfrI nhIN hoxgy sgoN kyvl gurbfxI smJx leI hoxgy. gurbfxI iswKx isKAux dy cfhvfn ijs vI mfeI BfeI ny aijhf sqsMg smfgm afpxy Gr ivwc rwKxf hovy sfzy nfl hyTly Pon pqy qy sMprk krky ieh syvf lY skdf hY ijs dI koeI Bytf nhIN hY sgoN sLrDf qy ipafr hY.

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gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Makhan Singh ji purewal,

This response was written by me to Rabinder Singh Bhamra, who is telling people to do rattan of waheguru as Gurmantar by surti birti jod ke.

They didn't put my response online to this surti birti jod ke of Bhamraji.

I am sending you, if you find it ok then please put it online.

I have given the exact words of Bhamraji as he has written in quotes and italics.

regards,

Gurpreet.

Bhamraji says Gurbani tells you how to get Naam

If gurbani tells us what Naam is then if you have got Naam

then you should stop reading Gurbani?

Bhamraji gives the following example

"Kabir soee mukh dhan hai ja mukh kahiay Ram" p370"

There is no such Shabad on page 370, rather on page 370 there is the following shabad

"tap karte tapasi bulaye pandit mohe lobh sabaye

Tregun mohe mohaya aakaas ham satgur raake de kar haath"

Guru Saab here is rather condemning the style of surti birti jodna , by saying that this maya or attachment has set them on a bad path, pundit has also took to bad path.

Then again there is no such following shabad on page given by you

"Vaho vaho kartia mun nirmal hovay haume vichon jaaay."p512

Rather on that page Guru Saab is again telling to take Naam all the time , means to remember God all the time, there is no mention of your style where initially as you said it is for 5-10 minutes and then time increases. Here is the shabad

"iss jag main mah ko birla brahmgyani je haume met samaye

Nanak tis no milaya sada such paiye ji andin har Naam dhyaye"(512)

In this human birth there is seldom a being who gives up his haume and ever remains connected to God. Hey Nanak! Who always all the time takes Naam you get happiness to meet such a person.

Here Guru Saab is telling to take Naam all the time.

If there is some other meaning? please let us know,

how does it tells to take Naam by surti birti jod ke.

Bhamraji again on page 512

"Gurmukh dhyan sehaj dhun upje sach naam chit laaya

Gurmukh andin rahe rang rata har ka naam man bhaya "(512)

Those who follow the teachings of their Guru they are always imbibed in true name all the time.

Again there is no such shabad as "Sa rasna jal jaao jin Har ka naon visaria.'p317 on the page no 317

Rather we have this

"Gur Nanak Har Naam dridaya bhanan ghadan samrath

Prabhu sada samaleh mitar tu dukh sabaya lath"(317)

Hey Nanak the god who can destroy and create bodies, Satgur has sown his NAAM in our heart and all our sorrows have vanished. Hey Friend! If you will always remember lord then all your sorrows too will vanish.

Here again Guru Saab is talking about Naam in your heart not connecting your surti birti.

It has become a fashion to mislead people by telling things that they will not understand and then those people will say this gyani is great, he has got Naam.

Recently on a TV one so called person was talking about anhad naad and saying that there are 5 types of sounds 1) flute 2)ghungroo etc.

Then you have given "Baid Kateb Simrat sab Sasat inhan paria mukt na hoee.
Ek akhar jo Gurmukh jaapay tis ki nirmal soee." p747

Let us see this complete shabad with rahao

"karam dharma pakhand jo deese tin jam jagati loote

Nirbaan kirtan gawo karte ka nimakh simrat jit chute

Santoh sagar paar utariye , je ko bachan kamawe santan ka so Gurparsad tariye"(rahao)

Kot tirath majan isnana is kal main mail bharije

saadh sang jo har gun gaawe so nirmal kar leeje

Baid Kateb Simrat sab Sasat inhan paria mukt na hoee.
Ek akhar jo Gurmukh jaapay tis ki nirmal soee

Khatri bahman shudra vais updes chaun varnaa ko sanjha

Gurmukh naam jape uddhare so kal main ghat ghat nanak majha"

Hey sant jano! By praising gods name you can cross this worldly ocean. If a person adapts this in his life then by the grace of Guru he crosses this ocean. (Rahao)

Then Guru Saab tells that these pakhands and teerath or holy places has no value only praise the Gods name.

Then Guru Saab says that Ved, kuran etc reading these you can not get rid of your vices rather take only one Gods name(Prof Sahib Singh)

Bhamra ji where is Gurmantar or any special mantar told by Guru Saab. Above is Prof. sahib Singh’s .

Then Bhamraji gives

"Akhan jivan visre mar jaaon.
Akhan aukha Sacha Naon".

Where is there any indication of repeating Gurmantar, as you say?

So all the quotes given by you does not support surti birti jod ke GURMANTAR da rattan karna.

Can you please give your views on Anhad naad as well?

If reciting the naam with tongue as you say which is Gurmantar ,then lets see what Guru Saab says on that

"ek jeeh gun kawan bakhaane sahas fani saikh ant naa jaane

Navtan naam jape din raati ikk gun nahi prabh ke sanag"(SGGS,1083)

Hey God! How many qualities of you can one tongue of mine say? Even Shesh Naag who is said to have having thousands fangs don’t know your end.He recites your new names day after day, night after night , but oh God! He can’t even praise even one of your qualities.

Please give your views about this?

Bhamra ji then Guru Saab says about mantar as follows

"tantar mantar pakhand naa janya ram hridey man manya

Anjan naam tise te sujhe gursabadi sach janya"(SGGS,766)

I don’t know any jaadu tuna, any pakhand, rituals, mantar. I have only my God in my heart and I am ever lost in his thoughts. soorma his is name, one who knows this , he gets attached to Guru’s Shabad and creates an everlasting bond with God and don’t need any mantar or Gurmantar like you are giving people.

Lets see what Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha says about Mantar

"Actually Mantar means exchange of thoughts(salah mashwara), yantar means machine and tantar means combination of substances. But Tantriks have given the name Mantar to the repetition of some particular shabad or word, writings on paper have been given the name jantar and tunas as tantar. In Gurmat such Mantar Tantar have been condemned. Its really sad! That even after reading Gurbani everyday many Sikh brothers are telling to recite some words as mantar, and telling people about different asans and malas and misguiding them." (Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha, Gurmat Martand, p789)

May be Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha is wrong and you are right but Gurbani cant be wrong.

Then Bhamra ji says

"With repeated japna Gurmantra settles inside your heart and you always remember it , you dont have to sit down to do Japna."

But for repeated japna , like the style that Bhamraji is preaching , Guru Saab says

"mukho har har sabh ko kare virle hirdey vasaya

Nanak jin ke hirdey vasya mokh mukat tin paaya"(SGGS,565)

With mouth everyone is repeating like the way you are giving Gurmantar, but seldom is the person who takes it into his heart, and who has God in his heart, oh Nanak! He has got his mukti.

Rather Guru Saab tells us to take Naam day and night means always remember God all the time, it is not some Japp karna Samadhi laake

"kar kirpa prabh apni daat Nanak naam jape din raat"(SGGS,192)

On asking Bhamraji

What Naam will you give to a person or suggest a person who is not Sikh, or it means there is no Naam japping technique for Non Sikh?

Bhamraji replies

"We cannot give Naam to anybody . It is part of God inside their body. They can use whatever Gurmantra they have in their religion and do japna with that.There is not one gurmantra in Gurbani . It is Ram ,Gobind ,Hari , Beethla and many others. The easiest technique is given to people by Guru Ji.If  they dont want to follow it let them use which they find good for them. The question is of showing love for God. Some techniques may take longer than others . It is one's choice."

See what Guru Saab says as Mantar

"Sat santokh daya dharma such, santan te eh mant layi

Kaho Nanak jin manoh pachanya tin ko sagli sojh payi"(SGGS,p822)

When someone meets Guru he adapts satisfaction in life service to others,compassion and truthful living as mantar in his life from saintly people. Hey Nanak! People who have made a connection with Guru in a truthful manner they have understood everything then they don’t run after mantars.

Bhamraji’s Gurmantar of repeating some word can not be found anywhere in Guru Granth Sahib. This is yog matt and misguiding people.

Then Bhamra ji says

"Guru Ji advises us to do Nap Japna which is remembrance of the name Of God which he calls Hari/Ram/Gobind in Gurbani but the Gurmantra given to the Sikhs is Wahegur.We are supposed to repeat Gurnantra by saying with our mouth using our tongue."

"Gurbani tells you what Naam is and where it is and how to reach it ,but it is not Naam. But it did come from Naam /Sabad thru Guru Ji who sang it and wrote for us."

But Guru Saab says Bani is Mantar

"Bani mantar mahapurkhan ki manhi uttaran maan kau

Khoj lahiyo Nanak sukh thana har nama bisram kau"(SGGS,p1208)

Bani or words of mahapurakh is mantar which removes ego from your heart. Hey Nanak! For inner peace Gods name is only solution which you can find in Saadh Sangat.

Bhamraji is telling to do rattan of Gurmantar surti birti jod ke!!!!!

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sLivMdr isMG igwl

lyK pVH ky anMd af igaf

prm siqkfr Xog zf[ srbjIq isMG jI aqy s[ mwKx isMG jI, bhuq bhuq mubfrkF . iswK-mfrg qy Cipaf lyK "hukmu pCfnY su eyko jfnY bMdf khIaY soeI " pVky anMd af igaf. siqgurU jI dI quhfzy qy apfr ikrpf hI khI jf skdI hY ijs krky iswK mfrg dy pfTkF nUM ajyhf igafn BrpUr lyK pVn nUM nsIb hoieaf . gurmiq nUM smJx aqy smJfAux vflf ies qoN cMgf lyK sLfied hI ikqy hovy, ikhf nhI jf skdf pr ies lyK dI hryk pwK qoN ijMnI vI isPq kIqI jfvy QoVI hovygI. zfktr sfihb jI ny hukmu dI aqI suMdr ivafiKaf kIqI hY. jo qusIN iliKaf hY ik "gurbfxI anusfr nfmu, hukmu, scu df afpsI sbMD hY. ienHF ivc vI ijafdf aMqr nhIN hY." awgy jf ky iPr iliKaf hY: "gurbfxI anusfr nfmu aqy hukmu ivc ijafdf aMqr nhIN hY". mY afKdf hF ik gurbfxI anusfr nfmu, hukmu, scu ieko cIj hn. ieko gwl hn. QoVf nf bhuqf, aMqr hY hI nhIN. hux spwsLt ho igaf ik nfmu aqy hukmu ieko cIj hn. ijs nUM hukmu dI soJI nhIN peI Aus nUM nfmu dI soJI pY hI nhIN skdI. ipCly lMby smyN qoN nfmu dI glq ivafiKaf ho rhI sI ijs dy juMmyvfr sfzy aKOqI sMq bfby (Twg), aKOqI igafnI, aKOqI imsLnrI aqy byeImfn pRcfrk hI khy jf skdy hn jF AuhnF dI aigafnqf. ieh lyK pVky mYnUM siqnfmu dy arQ vI spwsLt ho gey hn. siq df arQ hY sdIvI aqy nfmu df arQ hY hukmu, igafn, cfnx jo sdf rihx vflf hovy. "gurbfxI iesu jg mih cfnx" pMnf 67 anusfr ieh cfnx gurbfxI ivcly igafn qoN isvf hor iksy iksm df cfnx nhIN hY. "gur igafn pdfrQ nfmu hY" pMnf 759 anusfr igafn nUM hI nfmu ikhf igaf hY. ipCly hPqy imsLnrI surjIq isMG jI ny iswK mfrg qy Cpy lyK ivc siqnfmu dy glq arQ kIqy hn ik siq inrgux hY, nfmu srgux hY iPr ilKdy hn ieh inrgux-srgux do nhIN blik ieko pRwBU dy dovy srUp hn. kI sfzy imsLnrIaF ny iswK pMQ nUM BMbl-BUsy pfAux df Tykf ilaf hY? iek ajyhf hor ijhVf ieMtrnYsLnl iswK imsLnrI aKvFdf hY jfpdf hY sLfied Aus nUM bfbf ivrsf isMh ny QfpVf idqf hovy-lMby lyKF dIaF cfr iksLqF sfrf mhInf siqnfmu dy arQ ds ky iswK-mfrg dy pfTkF nUM BMbl- BUsy pfeI igaf. ienF dovyN ivdvfnf(?) dy lyK pVH ky mYnUM ipMz dy lokF dI gwlL Xfd af jFdI hY; vfry! vfry!! jfeIaY, iehnF hkImF dy, PoVf ikQy-cIrf ikQy?

dfs, sLivMdr isMG igwl.

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gurpRIq isMG smrf

"Ulta chor kotwal ko daante", Satpal Singh ji tusi great ho, You wrote a letter full of hatred and used not so adorable words and now putting your words in the mouth of those people who replied to you. It was you who wrote a letter in the favour of your living Brahmgyani and now putting all the blame on those who replied in humbleness. Anyways, this is upto the readers to decide that who was polite and who was impolite.

"jhooth na bol pandey sach kahiye, haume jaaye sabad ghar laiye"

Now coming to the point , you were asked two questions

1) What do you mean by, meeting God?

2) What do you mean by, achieving God?

You have not provided any answer for that, but are adamant on proving that your Sant Baba is a Brahmgyani, again saying that God is not Brahmgyani but some one else is. If you could provide the name of that Brahmgyani, it will be very helpful to the readers, because readers can not know who Brahmgyani is because

"Brahmgyani ki gat Brahmgyani jaane"

So you know Brahmgyani, so you are also Brahmgyani, I think that’s what you are trying to tell people again and again.

In Hindi there is an adage (kahawat) ‘dal main kala nahi yahan to dal hi kali hai’

The ashtpadi that you have quoted, is very clear in itself and tells that Brahmgyani is only Akal Purakh. I don’t need to quote all of it again

"Brahmgyani aap parmesar"

Guru Saab is describing the characterstics of Brahmgyani throughout this ashtpadi. There were many bodi and dhoti wale brahmgyani in those days who acclaimed themselves as brahmgyani (Now there are joode and Kachere wale Brahmgyani). So Guru Saab is telling us that the people you call or refer to as brahmgyani, does they have the following charcterstics? Then Guru Saab describes that these are the properties of Brahmgyani. If you want to call someone Brahmgyani, then look if you can find these properties in them.

Then Guru Saab keeps on describing the properties. All the properties that Guru Saab describes are impossible to find in any human being. Thats what the question was?

Where is the person that has all these properties?

Please let us know. You didn't answer the question rather, again repeated the same thing. jana thaa Japan puhanch gaye Cheen!!!

After describing the properties of Brahmgyani, Guru Saab then gives his decision that all these properties are found only in parmesar. Brahmgyani aap parmesar

Then Guru Saab says who are we to describe brahmgyani? Brahmgyani ki gat Brahmgyani jaane

But you have sworn not to listen to Guru Saab but rather forcibly put all these properties in human being.

Such Brahmgyani is good for you, you can worship such Brahmgyani as you yourself have become Brahmgyani by finding these properties in some living being.

Brahmgyani ki gat Brahmgyyani (Satpal Singh jaane)

Please let us know the name of that Brahmgyani as well who has all these properties as described by Guru Saab.

I read a story when I was small, a little boy asked his father, what does a train look like? his father said that it is red in color, has smoke blowing from the top and water is dripping from the bottom. Next day the boy went to Railway Station with his father and saw a man wearing a red shirt, smoking a cigarette and urinating by the railway line, the little boy jumped on his shoulder and started shouting, I am sitting on a train.

I wonder if your condition is like that, because Guru Saab after describing all the properties of Brahmgyani in very clear (there can not be anything clearer) terms tells that only Akal Purakh is Brahmgyani.

This is crystal clear that in 8^th Ashtpadi, Brahmgyani is only God and not any human being.

Regarding the lines quoted by you on pages 885, 879, 1001 and 1329 Brahm gyani is used in the context to describe a person who has understood Akaal Purakh, it is not the title for any selective person. Guru Saab has used it for every person who has understood God, who has got the gyan or knowledge of God, who starts living in his will and not acclaim himself as Brahmgyani.

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gursLrn isMG ksyl

srdfr sqpfl isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

srdfr sfihb, qkrIbn sfry hI iswK smJdy hn ik sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxI igafn df aQfh BMzfr hY. ies leI ho skdf hY ik asIN mfmUlI jIv afpxI-afpxI soc anusfr ies ƒ hryk pwK qoN nf smJ skIey . iek dUjy nfl vIcfr ivtFdrf krn nfl ies ivwcoN bhuq kuJ hfsl kr skdy hF. quhfzy vloN ilKI sR[ gurcrn isMG jI ƒ icwTI ivwcoN kuJ jfxkfrI lYxI cfhuMdf hF. afs krdf hF, ik afp jfxkfrI dyx dI Kycl krogy. ijvyN afp jI ny iliKaf hY ik, "ieh gl iblkul TIk hY ik gurbfxI bµdy ƒ bµdf bxfAuNdI hY. ies qoN awgy ieh vI TIk hY ik bµdf bxfAux qo bfd awgy sLIsLf vI krdI hY qF ik Auh afpxI pihcfx kr sky. (hukmu pCfnY su eyko jfnY, bMdf khIaY soeI ]) pµnf 1350]

 AuhI mnuwK rwb df (ipafrf) bMdf ikhf jf skdf hY, jo Aus dI rjLf ƒ pCfxdf hY" . 1[ srdfr sfihb, afp jI dy ivcfr anusfr rwb dI rËf jF hukm qoN kI Bfv hY ? 2[ kI afp ies smyN mnuwKf dyhI ivwc iksy aijhy ivakqI (Kfs krky iswK Drm dy) ƒ imly ho jo hyT ilKI gurbfxI anusfr pUrf Auqrdf hovy ? jykr afp imly ho qF myhrbfnI krky Ausdf pqf ËrUr dyxf jI. afp df bhuq-bhuq DMnvfdI hovFgf. gurbfxI hY:

sloku ] min sfcf muiK sfcf soie ] avru n pyKY eyksu ibnu koie ] nfnk ieh lCx bRhmigafnI hoie ]1] {pMnf 272}

astpdI ] bRhmigafnI sdf inrlyp ] jYsy jl mih kml alyp ] bRhmigafnI sdf inrdoK ] jYsy sUru srb kAu soK ] bRhmigafnI kY idRsit smfin ] jYsy rfj rMk kAu lfgY quil pvfn ] bRhmigafnI kY DIrju eyk ] ijAu bsuDf koAU KodY koAU cMdn lyp ] bRhmigafnI kf iehY gunfAu ] nfnk ijAu pfvk kf shj suBfAu ]1] {pMnf 272} bRhmigafnI inrml qy inrmlf ] jYsy mYlu n lfgY jlf ] bRhmigafnI kY min hoie pRgfsu ] jYsy Dr AUpir afkfsu ] bRhmigafnI kY imqR sqRü smfin ] bRhmigafnI kY nfhI aiBmfn ] bRhmigafnI AUc qy AUcf ] min apnY hY sB qy nIcf ] bRhmigafnI sy jn Bey ] nfnk ijn pRBu afip kryie ]2] {pMnf 272}

bRhmigafnI sgl kI rInf ] afqm rsu bRhmigafnI cInf ] bRhmigafnI kI sB AUpir mieaf ] bRhmigafnI qy kCu burf n Bieaf ] bRhmigafnI sdf smdrsI ] bRhmigafnI kI idRsit aMimRqu brsI ] bRhmigafnI bMDn qy mukqf ] bRhmigafnI kI inrml jugqf ] bRhmigafnI kf Bojnu igafn ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kf bRhm iDafnu ]3] {pMnf 272-273}

bRhmigafnI eyk AUpir afs ] bRhmigafnI kf nhI ibnfs ] bRhmigafnI kY grIbI smfhf ] bRhmigafnI prAupkfr Aumfhf ] bRhmigafnI kY nfhI DMDf ] bRhmigafnI ly Dfvqu bMDf ] bRhmigafnI kY hoie su Blf ] bRhmigafnI suPl Plf ] bRhmigafnI sMig sgl AuDfru ] nfnk bRhmigafnI jpY sgl sMsfru ]4] {pMnf 273}

bRhmigafnI kY eykY rMg ] bRhmigafnI kY bsY pRBu sMg ] bRhmigafnI kY nfmu afDfru ] bRhmigafnI kY nfmu prvfru ] bRhmigafnI sdf sd jfgq ] bRhmigafnI ahMbuiD iqafgq ] bRhmigafnI kY min prmfnµd ] bRhmigafnI kY Gir sdf anµd ] bRhmigafnI suK shj invfs ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kf nhI ibnfs ]5] {pMnf 273}

bRhmigafnI kI kImiq nfih ] bRhmigafnI kY sgl mn mfih ] bRhmigafnI kf kAunu jfnY Bydu ] bRhmigafnI kAu sdf adysu ] bRhmigafnI kf kiQaf n jfie aDfK´r ] bRhmigafnI srb kf Tfkuru ] bRhmigafnI kI imiq kAunu bKfnY ] bRhmigafnI kI giq bRhmigafnI jfnY ] bRhmigafnI kf aMqu n pfru ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kAu sdf nmskfru ]7] {pMnf 273}

bRhmigafnI sB isRsit kf krqf ] bRhmigafnI sd jIvY nhI mrqf ] bRhmigafnI mukiq jugiq jIa kf dfqf ] bRhmigafnI pUrn purKu ibDfqf ] bRhmigafnI anfQ kf nfQu ] bRhmigafnI kf sB AUpir hfQu ] bRhmigafnI kf sgl akfru ] bRhmigafnI afip inrMkfru ] bRhmigafnI kI soBf bRhmigafnI bnI ] nfnk bRhmigafnI srb kf DnI ]8]8] {pMnf 273-274}

siqkfr sihq,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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sqpfl isMG

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

 sqpfl isµG hfjr hY

hukmu pCfnY su eyko jfnY, bMdf khIaY soeI ]

 s[sfihb gurcrn isµG ijAux vflf jI, s[sfihb hrijµdr isµG jI torFto aqy vIr gurpRIq isµG smrf jI afp dy ipafr, gwusy, nsIhqF, gflLf aqy bhuq sfry svflF nfl Bry KLq imlx qy bhuq KusLI hoeI hY. iesy bhfny dunIaf Br ivwc vsdy pfTkF ƒ swc JUT dI pUrI jfxkfrI iml skygI. koisLsL krFgf ik sfry jvfb gurU afsLy muqfbk dy skf.

vIr gurpRIq isµG smrf jI qusIN myrI awDoN vD ilKq ƒ mfnqf dy cwuky ho aqy bfkI quhfzy iek do svflF df jvfb s[sfihb hrijµdr isµG jI dy lyK ivwc hY. iek jo rihµdf hY Auh hyTF ilK irhf hF. s[sfihb gurcrn isµG ijAux vflf jI dy svfl QoVy ijafdf hn . isrPL iek df hI Auqr dy skFgf bfkI aglI vfrI. s[ sfihb hrijµdr isµG jI df svfl koeI nhIN isrPL nsIhqF aqy gflLf hn ijµnf bfry afpf ivcfr krFgy ik AunHF df asl hwkdfr kOx hY.

awgy mYN brYktF ivwc s[sfihb gurcrn isµG ijAux vflf jI dIaF ilKqF df hvflf dy irhf hF. jo awj vI AunHF dy keI lyKF ivwc sfzy kol mOjUd hn. afp jI dfavy nfl inDVk ho ky kihµdy aqy ilKdy hn :- (1[ arQ sfry pRo[ sfihb isµG jI dy hI hµdy hn ikDry ikDry lµby arQF ƒ sµKyp krn vfsqy mYN afpxy koloN kuJ awKr jrUr vrqdf hF pr ikDry vI gurU isDFq dy Ault jfx dI ihµmq nhIN kIqI. quhfƒ sLfied koeI BulyKf lg igaf lgdf hY. 2[rwb jI afp hI bRhm igafnI hn.quhfƒ koeI hor lwBy qF jrUr ilKxf. 3[aTvIN sfrI astpdI ivwc iksy afdmI dy bRhmigafnI hox df koeI ijkr nhIN ikAuNik koeI vI afdmI sfrI isRsLtI df /bRhm df igafn nhIN rK skdf,qy koeI vI jo mF dy pytoN pYdf hoieaf mrn vflf hY. 4[ ies krky myrI sfrI mnwuKqf ƒ apIl hY ik gurbfxI ƒ smJ ky piVHaf kro cfhy iek slok hI idhfVI ivwc piVHaf kro. 5[ arQ ijqny vI ilKy hn Auh sfry pRo[ sfihb isµG zI ilt vfly hn qF jo sµgqF ƒ koeI ieqrfjL nf hovy.)

s[ sfihb gurcrn isµG ijAux vflf jI , s[sfihb hrijµdr isµG jI torFto aqy s[sfihb gurpRIq isµG smrf jI afE afpF sfry hI surqI ibrqI dI iekfgrqf pUrn pRym BfvnI aqy pRqIq sihq siqkfr Xog pRo[ sfihb isµG zI ilt vloN aTvIN asLtpdI aqy hor gurU sfihbfn dy aµimRq meI bcnF dy arQ boDF dy ilKqI rUp ivwc drsLn krIey.pRo[ sfihb vloN idwqy ilKqI arQF qoN bfd sUJvfn pfTk afpy inqfrf kr lYxgy aqy afp iqµny isµG sfihbfn vI arQF ƒ smJ ky afpxy ivcfrF ivwc soD krn dI ikRpflqf krogy. (swc sbUqF sihq ) aTvIN sfrI asLtpdI smyq arQF pRo[ sfihb isµG zI ilt vfly jI dI hyTF dy irhf hF.

sloku ] min sfcf muiK sfcf soie ] avru n pyKY eyksu ibnu koie ] nfnk ieh lCx bRhmigafnI hoie ]1] {pMnf 272}

pd arQ :—min—mn ivc . sfcf—sdf kfiem rihx vflf akfl purK . muiK—mUMh ivc . avru koie—koeI hor . pyKY—vyKdf hY . eyksu ibnu—iek pRBU qoN ibnf . ieh lCx—iehnF lwCxF dy kfrx, iehnF guxF nfl . bRhmigafnI—akfl purK dy igafn vflf . igafn—jfx-pCfx, zUMGI sFJ .

arQ :—(ijs mnuwK dy) mn ivc sdf-iQr rihx vflf pRBU (vwsdf hY), (jo) mUMhoN (BI) Ausy pRBU ƒ (jpdf hY), (jo mnuwK) iek akfl purK qoN ibnf (ikqy BI) iksy hor ƒ nhIN vyKdf, hy nfnk ! (Auh mnuwK) iehnF guxF dy kfrx bRhmigafnI ho jFdf hY .1.

astpdI ] bRhmigafnI sdf inrlyp ] jYsy jl mih kml alyp ] bRhmigafnI sdf inrdoK ] jYsy sUru srb kAu soK ] bRhmigafnI kY idRsit smfin ] jYsy rfj rMk kAu lfgY quil pvfn ] bRhmigafnI kY DIrju eyk ] ijAu bsuDf koAU KodY koAU cMdn lyp ] bRhmigafnI kf iehY gunfAu ] nfnk ijAu pfvk kf shj suBfAu ]1] {pMnf 272}

pd arQ :—inrlyp—bydfgL . alyp—(icwkV qoN) sfPL . inrdoK—doK-rihq, pfpF qoN brI . sUru—sUrj . soK—{sLkt[ sLfyÀx} sukfAux vflf . id®sit—njLr . smfin—ieko ijhI . rMk—kMgfl . quil—brfbr . pvfn—pvn, hvf . eyk—iek-qfr . bsuDf—DrqI . lyp—pocY, lypx . gunfAu—gux . pfvk—awg . shj—kudrqI .

arQ :—bRhmigafnI (mnuwK ivkfrF vloN) sdf-bydfgL (rihMdy hn) ijvyN pfxI ivc (AuWgy hoey) kAul Puwl (icwkV qoN) sfPL huMdy hn . ijvyN sUrj sfry (rsF) ƒ sukf dyNdf hY (iqvyN) bRhmigafnI (mnuwK) (sfry pfpF ƒ sfV dyNdy hn) pfpF qoN bcy rihMdy hn . ijvyN hvf rfjy qy kMgfl ƒ ieko ijhI lwgdI hY (iqvyN) bRhmigafnI dy aMdr (sB vl) ieko ijhI njLr (nfl qwkx df suBfAu huMdf) hY . (koeI Blf khy BfvyN burf, pr) bRhmigafnI mnuwKF dy aMdr iek-qfr hOslf (kfiem rihMdf) hY, ijvyN DrqI ƒ koeI qF Koqrdf hY, qy koeI cMdn dy lypx krdf hY (pr DrqI ƒ prvfh nhIN) . hy nfnk ! ijvyN awg df kudrqI suBfAu hY (hryk cIjL dI mYl sfV dyxI) (iqvyN) bRhmigafnI mnuwKF df (BI) iehI gux hY .1.

bRhmigafnI inrml qy inrmlf ] jYsy mYlu n lfgY jlf ] bRhmigafnI kY min hoie pRgfsu ] jYsy Dr AUpir afkfsu ] bRhmigafnI kY imqR sqRü smfin ] bRhmigafnI kY nfhI aiBmfn ] bRhmigafnI AUc qy AUcf ] min apnY hY sB qy nIcf ] bRhmigafnI sy jn Bey ] nfnk ijn pRBu afip kryie ]2] {pMnf 272}

pd arQ :—min—mn ivc . pRgfsu—cfnx, igafn . Dr—DrqI . sq®ü—vYrI . ijn—ijnHF ƒ . kryie—krdf hY, bxfAuNdf hY .

arQ :—ijvyN pfxI ƒ kdy mYl nhIN rih skdI (buKLfrfq afidk bx ky muV sfPL df sfPL, iqvyN hI) bRhmigafnI mnuwK (ivkfrF dI mYl qoN sdf bicaf rih ky) mhf inrml hY . ijvyN DrqI Auqy afkfsL (sB QF ivafpk hY, iqvyN) bRhmigafnI dy mn ivc (ieh) cfnx ho jFdf hY (ik pRBU hr QF mOjUd hY) . bRhmigafnI ƒ swjx qy vYrI ieko ijhf hY (ikAuNk) Aus dy aMdr ahMkfr nhIN hY (iksy dy cMgy mMdy slUk df hrK sog nhIN) . bRhmigafnI (afqmk avsQf ivc) sB qoN AuWcf hY, (pr) afpxy mn ivc (afpxy afp ƒ) sB qoN nIvF (jfxdf hY) . hy nfnk ! AuhI mnuwK bRhmigafnI bxdy hn ijnHF ƒ pRBU afp bxfAuNdf hY .2.

bRhmigafnI sgl kI rInf ] afqm rsu bRhmigafnI cInf ] bRhmigafnI kI sB AUpir mieaf ] bRhmigafnI qy kCu burf n Bieaf ] bRhmigafnI sdf smdrsI ] bRhmigafnI kI idRsit aMimRqu brsI ] bRhmigafnI bMDn qy mukqf ] bRhmigafnI kI inrml jugqf ] bRhmigafnI kf Bojnu igafn ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kf bRhm iDafnu ]3] {pMnf 272-273}

pd arQ :—rInf (crnF dI) DUV . afqm rsu—afqmf df afnMd . cInf—pCfixaf hY . mieaf—KLusLI, pRsMnqf, myhr . kCu—koeI, koeI (kMm jF gwl) . sBdrsI—(sB vl) ieko ijhf vyKx vflf . brsI—vrKf krn vflI . mukqf—afjLfd . jugqf—jugqI, qrIkf, mrXfdf, ijLMdgI gujLfrn df qrIkf .

arQ :—bRhmigafnI sfry (bMidaF) dy pYrF dI KLfk (ho ky rihMdf) hY; bRhmigafnI ny afqmk afnMd ƒ pCfx ilaf hY . bRhmigafnI dI sB Auqy KLusLI huMdI hY (Bfv, bRhm-igafnI sB nfl hwsdy-mwQy rihMdf hY,) aqy Auh koeI mMdf kMm nhIN krdf . bRhmigafnI sdf sB vl ieko ijhI njLr nfl qwkdf hY, Aus dI njLr qoN (sB Auqy) aMimRq dI vrKf huMdI hY . bRhmigafnI (mfieaf dy) bMDnF qoN afjLfd huMdf hY, aqy Aus dI jIvn-jugqI ivkfrF qoN rihq hY . (rwbI-) igafn bRhmigafnI dI KLurfk hY (Bfv, bRhmigafnI dI afqmk ijLMdgI df afsrf hY), hy nfnk ! bRhmigafnI dI suriq akfl purK nfl juVI rihMdI hY .

bRhmigafnI eyk AUpir afs ] bRhmigafnI kf nhI ibnfs ] bRhmigafnI kY grIbI smfhf ] bRhmigafnI prAupkfr Aumfhf ] bRhmigafnI kY nfhI DMDf ] bRhmigafnI ly Dfvqu bMDf ] bRhmigafnI kY hoie su Blf ] bRhmigafnI suPl Plf ] bRhmigafnI sMig sgl AuDfru ] nfnk bRhmigafnI jpY sgl sMsfru ]4] {pMnf 273}

pd arQ :—afs—tyk, afsrf . ibnfs—nfs, aBfv . bRhmigafnI kY—bRhmigafnI dy mn ivc . smfhf—smfeI hoeI hY, itkI hoeI hY . Aumfhf—AuqsLfh, cfAu . ly—lY ky, kfbU kr ky . bMDf—rok rwKdf hY, bMnH rwKdf hY . suPl—cMgy Pl vflf ho ky, cMgI murfd nfl . Plf—Pldf hY, kfmXfb huMdf hY . bRhmigafnI jpY—bRhmigafnI dI rfhIN jpdf hY .

arQ :—bRhmigafnI iek akfl purK Auqy afs rwKdf hY; bRhmigafnI (dI AuWcI afqmk avsQf) df kdy nfs nhIN huMdf . bRhmigafnI dy ihrdy ivc grIbI itkI rihMdI hY, aqy Aus ƒ dUijaF dI BlfeI krn df (sdf) cfAu (ciVHaf rihMdf) hY . bRhmigafnI dy mn ivc (mfieaf df) jMjfl nhIN ivafpdf, (ikAuNik) Auh Btkdy mn ƒ kfbU kr ky (mfieaf vloN) rok skdf hY . jo kuJ (pRBU vloN) huMdf hY, bRhmigafnI ƒ afpxy mn ivc Blf pRqIq huMdf hY, (ies qrHF) Aus df mnuwKf jnm cMgI qrHF kfmXfb huMdf hY . bRhmigafnI dI sMgiq ivc sB df byVf pfr huMdf hY, (ikAuNik) hy nfnk ! bRhmigafnI dI rfhIN sfrf jgq (hI) (pRBU df nfm) jpx lwg pYNdf hY .4.

bRhmigafnI kY eykY rMg ] bRhmigafnI kY bsY pRBu sMg ] bRhmigafnI kY nfmu afDfru ] bRhmigafnI kY nfmu prvfru ] bRhmigafnI sdf sd jfgq ] bRhmigafnI ahMbuiD iqafgq ] bRhmigafnI kY min prmfnµd ] bRhmigafnI kY Gir sdf anµd ] bRhmigafnI suK shj invfs ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kf nhI ibnfs ]5] {pMnf 273}

pd arQ :—eykY—iek pRBU df . rMg—ipafr . sMg—sMig, nfl . aDfru—afsrf . sd—sdf . ahMbuiD—‘mYN mYN’ (afKx) vflI buiD, ahMkfr vflI mwiq . iqafgq—Cwz dyNdf hY . min—mn ivc . prmfnMd—prm anMd vflf pRBU, AuWcy suK df mflk akfl purK . shj—azolqf dI hflq . ibnfs—nfs, aBfv .

arQ :—bRhmigafnI dy ihrdy ivc (sdf) iek akfl purK df ipafr (vwsdf hY), (qfhIeyN) pRBU bRhmigafnI dy aMg-sMg rihMdf hY . bRhmigafnI dy mn ivc (pRBU df) nfm (hI) tyk hY aqy nfm hI Aus df prvfr hY . bRhmigafnI sdf (ivkfrF dy hmly vloN) sucyq rihMdf hY, aqy ‘mYN mYN’ krn vflI mwq Cwz dyNdf hY . bRhmigafnI dy mn ivc AuWcy suK df mflk akfl purK vwsdf hY, (qfhIeyN) Aus dy ihrdy-rUp Gr ivc sdf KLusLI iKVfE hY . bRhmigafnI (mnuwK) suK qy sLFqI ivc itikaf rihMdf hY; (qy) hy nfnk ! bRhmigafnI (dI ies AuWcI afqmk avsQf) df kdy nfs nhIN huMdf .5.

bRhmigafnI bRhm kf byqf ] bRhmigafnI eyk sMig hyqf ] bRhmigafnI kY hoie aicMq ] bRhmigafnI kf inrml mMq ] bRhmigafnI ijsu krY pRBu afip ] bRhmigafnI kf bz prqfp ] bRhmigafnI kf drsu bzBfgI pfeIaY ] bRhmigafnI kAu bil bil jfeIaY ] bRhmigafnI kAu Kojih mhysur ] nfnk bRhmigafnI afip prmysur ]6] {pMnf 273}

pd arQ :—byqf—{sLkt[ ivdw to knof vyÈff one fho knofs} jfxn vflf, mihrm, vfikPL . eyk sMig—iek pRBU nfl . hyqf—ipafr . aicMq—aicMqqf, byiPLkrI . inrml—ml-hIx, pivq® krn vflf . mMq—mMqr, AupdysL . bz—vwzf . drsu—drsn . pfeIaY—pfeIdf hY . bil bil—sdky . Kojih—Kojdy hn, Bfldy hn . mhysur—mhf eIsur, isLv jI (afidk dyvqy) . prmysur—prmfqmf, akfl purK .

arQ :—bRhmigafnI (mnuwK) akfl purK df mhrm bx jFdf hY aqy Auh iek pRBU nfl hI ipafr krdf hY . bRhmigafnI dy mn ivc (sdf) byiPLkrI rihMdI hY, Aus df AupdysL (BI hornF ƒ) pivq® krn vflf huMdf hY . bRhmigafnI df bVf nfmxf ho jFdf hY (pr AuhI mnuwK bRhmigafnI bxdf hY) ijs ƒ pRBU afp bxfAuNdf hY . bRhmigafnI df dIdfr vwzy BfgF nfl pfeIdf hY; bRhmigafnI qoN sdf sdky jfeIey . isLv (afidk dyvqy BI) bRhmigafnI ƒ Bfldy iPrdy hn; hy nfnk ! akfl purK afp bRhmigafnI (df rUp) hY .6.

bRhmigafnI kI kImiq nfih ] bRhmigafnI kY sgl mn mfih ] bRhmigafnI kf kAunu jfnY Bydu ] bRhmigafnI kAu sdf adysu ] bRhmigafnI kf kiQaf n jfie aDfK´r ] bRhmigafnI srb kf Tfkuru ] bRhmigafnI kI imiq kAunu bKfnY ] bRhmigafnI kI giq bRhmigafnI jfnY ] bRhmigafnI kf aMqu n pfru ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kAu sdf nmskfru ]7] {pMnf 273}

pd arQ :—sgl—sfry . mn mfih—mn ivc . Bydu—rfjL, mrm . adysu—pRxfm, nmskfr . adfK´r—(mihmf df) awDf awKr (BI) . imiq—mfp, mrXfdf, aMdfjLf . giq—hflq . bKfnY—ibafn kry .

arQ :—bRhmigafnI (dy guxF) df mwul nhIN pY skdf, sfry hI (gux) bRhmigafnI dy aMdr hn . kyhVf mnuwK bRhmigafnI (dI AuWcI ijLMdgI) df Byq pf skdf hY ? bRhmigafnI dy awgy sdf inAUxf hI (Pwbdf) hY . bRhmigafnI (dI mihmf) df awDf awKr BI nhIN ikhf jf skdf; bRhmigafnI sfry (jIvF) df pUjÎ hY . bRhmigafnI (dI AuWcI ijLMdgI) df aMdfjLf kOx lf skdf hY ? Aus dI hflq (Aus vrgf) bRhmigafnI hI jfxdf hY . bRhmigafnI (dy guxF dy smuMdr) df koeI hwd bMnf nhIN; hy nfnk ! sdf bRhmigafnI dy crnF qy ipaf rhu .7.

bRhmigafnI sB isRsit kf krqf ] bRhmigafnI sd jIvY nhI mrqf ] bRhmigafnI mukiq jugiq jIa kf dfqf ] bRhmigafnI pUrn purKu ibDfqf ] bRhmigafnI anfQ kf nfQu ] bRhmigafnI kf sB AUpir hfQu ] bRhmigafnI kf sgl akfru ] bRhmigafnI afip inrMkfru ] bRhmigafnI kI soBf bRhmigafnI bnI ] nfnk bRhmigafnI srb kf DnI ]8]8] {pMnf 273-274}

pd arQ :—isRsit—dunIaf . sd—sdf . mukiq jugiq—mukqI df rsqf . jIa kf dfqf—(afqmk) ijLMdgI dyx vflf . ibDfqf—pYdf krn vflf . pUrn purKu—sB ivc ivafpk pRBU . nfQu—Ksm . sB AUpir hfQu—sB dI shfieqf krdf hY . sgl akfru—sfrf idwsdf sMsfr . akfru—srUp . bnI—PbdI hY . DnI—mflk .

arQ :—bRhmigafnI sfry jgq df bxfAux vflf hY, sdf hI ijAUNdf hY, kdy (jnm) mrn dy gyV ivc nhIN afAuNdf . bRhmigafnI mukqI df rfh (dwsx vflf qy AuWcI afqmk) ijLMdgI df dyx vflf hY, AuhI pUrn purK qy kfdr hY . bRhmigafnI inKLsimaF df KLsm hY, sB dI shfieqf krdf hY . sfrf idwsdf jgq bRhmigafnI df (afpxf) hY, Auh (qF pRqwK) afp hI rwb hY . bRhmigafnI dI mihmf (koeI) bRhmigafnI hI kr skdf hY; hy nfnk ! bRhmigafnI sB jIvF df mflk hY .8.8.

aTvIN asLtpdI ivwc gurU arjn dyv jI pfqsLfh ny qF bRhmigafnI bfry bhuq vwzI bKisLsL kIqI hI hY. hor gurU sfihbfnF ny vI bRhmigafnI bfry bVy hI srl aqy spsLt sLbdF ivwc mnwuK mfqr ƒ afqm boD krfAux dI apfr ikRpf kIqI hY. jo ies pRkfr hY.

iehu sMsfru ibkfru, sMsy mih, qirE bRhm igafnI ]pµnf 13]

ieh jgq ivkfrF nfl BrpUr hY . (jgq dy jIv) qOKLilaF ivc (zuwb rhy hn . iehnF ivcoN) AuhI mnuwK inkldf hY ijs ny prmfqmf nfl jfx-pCfx pf leI hY .

bRhm igafnI imil krhu bIcfrf iehu qAu clqu Bieaf ]1] pµnf 885]

ijhVf koeI gurmuiK prmfqmf nfl zUMGI sFJ pFdf hY Aus ƒ iml ky (by-sLwk) ivcfr kr lvo, (jMmx mrn vflI qF) ieh iek Kyz bxI hoeI hY .

purK mih nfir nfir mih purKf bUJhu bRhm igafnI ] pµnf 879]

hy prmfqmf nfl zUMGI sFJ rwKx vfly ! vyK acrj Kyz ik mnuwKF dy vIrj qoN iesq®IaF pYdf huMdIaF hn qy iesq®IaF qoN mnuwK jMmdy hn . prmfqmf dI kudriq dI khfxI ibafn nhIN ho skdI .

sUru mukqf ssI mukqf bRhm igafnI ailpfie ]pµnf 1001]

pd arQ :—sUr—sUrj . mukqf—mYl afidk qoN rihq . ssI—cMd®mf . bRhm igafnI—Auh mnuwK ijs ny prmfqmf nfl zUMGI sFJ pf leI hY .

arQ :—ijhVf mnuwK pRBU nfl zUMGI sFJ pfeI rwKdf hY Auh mfieaf qoN ieAuN inrlyp rihMdf hY ijvyN sUrj (cMgy mMdy hryk QF afpxI rOsLnI dy ky) mYl afidk qoN sfPL hY, ijvyN cMd®mf BI (iesy qrHF) sfPL hY . bRhm nfl jfx-pCfx rwKx vflf ieAuN sohxf lwgdf hY ijvyN (hryk iksm dI mYl ƒ sfV ky BI) awg (mYl qoN) inrlyp hY aqy sdf inrml hY .4.

min vIcfir dyKu bRhm igafnI kAunu igrhI kAunu AudfsI ] pµnf 1329]

min—mn ivc . vIcfir—ivcfr ky . bRhm igafnI—hy bRhm-igafnI ! hy prmfqmf nfl sFJ pfx df jqn krn vfly ! igrhI—igRhsqI . hy prmfqmf nfl sFJ pfx df jqn krn vfly ! afpxy mn ivc soc ky (awKF KolH ky) vyK (jy suriq itkfxy qy nhIN hY; qF) nfh hI igRhsqI jIvn-sPLr ivc TIk rfhy qur irhf hY qy nfh hI (Auh mnuwK jo afpxy afp ƒ) ivrkq (smJdf hY) .

s[sfihb hrijµdr isµG jI torFto ieh sfrf kuJ pVHn suxn qo bfd dwso ik quhfƒ s[sfihb gurcrn isµG ijAux vflf jI dI iksy vI khI gl ivc scfeI njLr afAuNdI hY?

1[kI ienHF vloN arQ pRo[ sfihb isµG zI ilt vfly jI vfilaF dy ilKy jf rhy hn ?

2[kI ieh swc hY ik gurbfxI soc,ivcfr aqy smJ ky ilKI jf rhI hY?

3[kI ieh swc hY ik gurbfxI dy Ault jfx dI kdy ihµmq nhIN kIqI?

4[kI ieh swc hY ik aTvIN sfrI asLtpdI ivwc iksy afdmI dy bRhmigafnI hox df koeI ijkr nhIN?

5[ kI ieh asIN iswKI df pRcfr kr rhy hF jF ik pihlF hI AulJI hoeI kOm ƒ afpxI aigafnqf nfl hor kurfhy pfAux df iek niKwD krm?

s[sfihb hrijµdr isµG jI torFto jy kr iksy vI ivsLysL ivakqI nfl iksy ƒ nPLrq hY qF Aus ƒ glq sfbq krn leI hor bhuq Zµg vrqy jf skdy hn nf ik gurbfxI dy arQ hI glq krI jfE. jy mYN swc kihx dI ihµmq kIqI hY qF ieh qusIN myrI avfjL ƒ bµd krfAux df koeI vDIaf Zµg nhIN vriqaf. hux mYN vyKFgf ik qusIN jgq gurU sRI gurU gµRQ sfihb jI dI hµudI ies byadbI bfry kuJ boldy ho ky jF dosqI pugfAuNdy ho. ieh iek vDIaf gl hY ik afp jI ny jgq gurU sRI gurU gµRQ sfihb jI koloN iek swcf swucf sbk (ikrq kridaF nfm jpxf) isK ilaf hY pr ies qoN awgy gurbfxI gurU AuwcI swucI ikrq krn aqy nfm ismrn dI jugqI vI bKisLsL krdI hY. vIr jI ies sbk ƒ vI iswKx df Xqn krnf. afpxI glq PihmI ƒ dUijaF Aupr Qopxf, jy Auh sihmq nhIN qF gflLf, iswKI nhIN. (hAumY nfvY nfil ivroDu hY duie n vsih iek Tfie ] pµnf 560) hAumY df prmfqmf dy nfm nfl vYr hY, ieh dovyN iekwTy (ihrdy ivc) nhIN vws skdy .hux jy kr nfm df vfsf ajy ihrdy ivwc nhIN hoieaf qF (ibnu nfvY jgu kmlf iPrY gurmuiK ndrI afieaf ]pµnf 643) siqgurU dy snmuK ho ky ieh idws pYNdf hY ik sMsfr nfm qoN ibnf kmlf hoieaf Btkdf hY. sLfied iesy leI hI Auh kµDF ivwcoN kuJ suxn dI koisLsL krdf hY.

ieh gl iblkul TIk hY ik gurbfxI bµdy ƒ bµdf bxfAuNdI hY. ies qoN awgy ieh vI TIk hY ik bµdf bxfAux qo bfd awgy sLIsLf vI krdI hY qF ik Auh afpxI pihcfx kr sky. (hukmu pCfnY su eyko jfnY, bMdf khIaY soeI ]) pµnf 1350]

 AuhI mnuwK rwb df (ipafrf) bMdf ikhf jf skdf hY, jo Aus dI rjLf ƒ pCfxdf hY . gurbfxI ivwc hor vI bhuq sLbd hn ijvyN isK, guriswK mnmuK, gurmuK, sfkq, loBI, cor, kmlf, pRyq, psU, mUrK, isafxf, sµq , sfD, igafnI aqy bRhmigafnI dI pirBfsLf bhuq hI spsLt ilKI hoeI hY. ijs nfl asIN jd cfhIey afpxf cyhrf vyK skdy hF, afpxy afp dI pihcfx kr skdy hF.

afE iek hor sbd dI ivcfr krdy hF ijs ivc siqgurU jI isK aqy gurisK pihcfx dsdy hn aqy nfl hI sfƒ rojfnf dy inqnym dI bKiss krdy hn[.

m: 4 ] gur siqgur kf jo (isKu )aKfey su Blky AuiT hir nfmu iDafvY ] Audmu kry Blky prBfqI iesnfnu kry aMimRqsir nfvY ] Aupdyis gurU hir hir jpu jfpY siB iklivK pfp doK lih jfvY ] iPir cVY idvsu gurbfxI gfvY bhidaf AuTidaf hir nfmu iDafvY ] jo sfis igrfis iDafey myrf hir hir so (gurisKu )gurU min BfvY ]ijs no dieaflu hovY myrf suafmI iqsu gurisK gurU Aupdysu suxfvY ] jnu nfnk DUiV mMgY iqsu gurisK kI jo afip jpY avrh nfmu jpfvY ]{pMnf 305}

arQ :- jo mnuwK siqgurU df (swcf) iswK aKvfAuNdf hY (Bfv, ijs ƒ lok swcf iswK afKdy hn) Auh rojL svyry AuWT ky hir nfm df ismrn krdf hY, hr rojL svyry AuWdm krdf hY, iesLnfn krdf hY (qy iPr nfm rUp) aMimRq dy srovr ivc tuwBI lfAuNdf hY, siqgurU dy AupdysL duafrf pRBU dy nfm df jfp jpdf hY qy (ies qrHF) Aus dy sfry pfp ivkfr lih jFdy hn; iPr idn cVHy siqgurU dI bfxI df kIrqn krdf hY qy (idhfVI) bihMidaF AuWTidaF (Bfv, kfr-ikrq kridaF) pRBU df nfm ismrdf hY . siqgurU dy mn ivc Auh iswK cMgf lwgdf hY jo ipafry pRBU nMU hr dm Xfd krdf hY .ijs qy ipafrf pRBU idafl huMdf hY, Aus guriswK ƒ siqgurU iswiKaf dyNdf hY . dfs nfnk (BI) Aus guriswK dI crn-DUV mMgdf hY jo afp nfm jpdf hY qy hornF ƒ jpfAuNdf hY. ieh siqgurU jI df afpxy isK ƒ hukm hY . jy kr isK hukm, rjf jf Bfxy ivwc nhIN afAuNdf qF iPr Auh kOx hY . siqgurU jI ies bfry vI bVy srl aqy spsLt sLbdF ivwc dwsdy hn. jo qusIN myry qo vD jfxdy ho.

isµG sfihb jI siqgurU swcy pfqsLfh jI awgy bµdnf, bynqI jodVI krdf hF ik s[ sfihb gurcrn isµG ijAux vflf jI dy mn ivwcoN gwusf, eIrKf aqy dvYq BfvnI dI ibK ƒ afpxy pfvn pivqr nfm nfl isµc ky aµimRq ivwc plt dyx dI rihmq krn qfik ieh vI afpxI dUsiraF pRqI by dlIlI bKLIlI krn df Bfr isr cwukxoN bc skx .

pyRm siqkfr sihq vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

sqpfl isµG .

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sLivMdr isMG igwl

vIr suKdyv isMG (kYlyPornIaF) jI, jdoN vI koeI sfzf vIr jfxy jF axjfxy ivc "isK mfrg" nUM DuMdlf krdf hY Bfv glq jfxkfrI idMdf hY qF suBfvk sfnUM guwsf vI afAudf hY aqy ies gusy dy pRqIk hI sKq lPjL ilKy jFdy hn. asI sfry mMndy hF ik gurUbfxI mnuwKqf leI akfl purK df AupdysL hY ijs nUM swc mMinaF igaf hY. jy asI smuwcI gurbfxI nUM afDfr bxfeIey qF hI asIN TIk syD lY skdy hF. iek quwk jF iek ihsy nUM pRvfn krky asI afpxI alp buwDI anusfr glq arQ smJdy hF. pMnf 273 qy hI siqgurU jI spwsLt soJI bKsLdy hn: bRhm igafnI afp prmysur;[[[[bRhmigafnI afip inrMkfr;. so s[ gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) jI bRhmigafnI dy TIk arQ krdy hn qF ik jxf-Kxf, aYrf gYrf-nwQU KYrf, ikqy bRhmigafnI hox df Brm nf pfldf rhy. sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI bfxI rcxvfly sfry hI mhFpursL qF khy jf skdy hn pr prmysur, inrMkfr jF bRhmigafnI kihxf gurbfxI dI ivroDqf khI jfvygI. glq arQ smJx df nqIjf hI sfzy sfhmxy hY ik iewt cukIey qF bRhmigafnI inkl afAudf hY. jdo asIN bRhmigafn nUM sImq bxfAudy hF qF asI glqI krdy hF. bRhmigafn afdrsL hY ijs df isrf nhIN disaf jf skdf. ijs qrF siqgurU vI igafn rUp, afdrsL hY aQfh hY, prmfqmf hY ijs dI ivafiKaf gurbfxI krdI hY, srIr nhIN ho skdf Ausy qrF bRhmigafnI srIr nhIN ho skdf. pr gurbfxI dy glq arQ smJx krky hI gurU nfnk dyv XUnIvrstI ivc sfzy iswK lIzrF ny kUikaF dy hYz (afgU) nUM siqgurU mMn ky Aus dy nfm qy cyar asQfpq krn dI glqI kIqI hY jo ik srfsr gurU nfnk jI dI ivcfrDfrf dy Ault hY. iesy qrF mnuKqf nUM Twgx vfsqy keI aKOqI sMq afpxy afp nUM gurbfxI ivc vrqy sLbdF nfl joV ky lokfeI nUM Twg rhy hn.

dfs, sLivMdr isMG igwl

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hrijMdr isMG (torFto)

rivMdr isMG BMvrf afp Kud duibDf ivc

sLfied ieh 3-4 mhIny purfxI gwl hY ik rivMdr isMG BMvrf jI sfzy torFto dy iek sQfink tIvI cYnl qy afpxy gurmiq sMbMDI ivcfr dy rhy sn. ies iswDy prsfirq ho rhy progrfm ivc drsLk Pon rfhIN iehnF koloN kIqI jf rhI ivcfr bfry svfl-jvfb vI kr rhy sn. BMvrf jI jpu jI sfihb dI bfxI dI pihlI pAuVI dI pihlI quk socY soic n hoveI jy socI lK vfr ] dy arQ kr rhy sn qy kih sn ies quk ivc socx Bfv ik Thinking dI gwl ho rhI. ies bfry jdoN mYN afp BMvrf jI nMU Pon krky puWiCaf ik ies dy arQ socxf nhIN hn ies dy arQ suwc Bfv ik pivwqrqf hn qF BMvrf jI kihx lwgy ik dovyN hI arQ TIk hn Bfv ik socxf vI aqy suwc vI. hux ivcfr ieh hY ik rivMdr isMG BMvrf jI afp hI duibDf ivc hn qF ieh dUsiraF nMU ikvyN AupdysL kr rhy hn? ikAuNik grbfxI dI iek quk jF iek sLbd ivc iek hI arQ huMdf hY Aus dy do arQ ieko smyN nhIN ho skdy. gurU gRMQ sfihb drpx dy rcyqf poR: sfihb jI kihMdy sn ik ieh drpx ilLKx dI pyRrnf AuhnF nMU iek afrIaf smfjI bulfry dI iek gwl qoN imlI sI. Auh bulfrf iek vfr ieh kih irhf sI ik iswKF dI hflq vyKo ieh gurbfxI nMU afpxf gurU-ipAu mMndy. pr lwgdf hY ik iehnF iswKF df iek nhIN keI-keI ipAu. ieh iswK gurbfxI iek quk dy keI arQ krdy hn. ies qrHf iehnF dy keI ipAu hn. ieh gwl sfihb isMMG jI idl lwg geI aqy Auh juwt gty ieh lwBx ivc gurbfxI iek quwk dy kyvl iek hI arQ ho skdy qy ies krky AuhnF ny gurbfxI ivafkrx dI Koj qoN bfd drpx ricaf.

so BMvrf jI qusIN Kud afp duibDf ivc pY ky iswKF dy keI bfpU nf bxfAu. qusIN afp duibDf ivcoN bfhr inklo qy gurbfxI dI ivafiKaf vyly ieh iKafl rwKo ikhVf sLbd qy quk iks sMdrB ivc hY. Aus quk dy arQ Ausy sMdrB ivc huMdy hn. jykr quhfzf gurbfxI aiDaYn df aDUrf hY qF Gwto-Gwt iek vfr poR: sfihb isMG df iliKaf gurU gRMQ sfihb drpx jLrUr iDafn nfl pVHo. hux vIcfr Auprokq vrixq jpu jI dI pihlI pAuVI bfry qF ieh sB mYN poR: sfihb isMG jI dy drpx ivcoN hUbhU dy irhf hF. pVoH

socY soic n hoveI jy socI lK vfr ]

cupY cup n hoveI jy lfie rhf ilvqfr ]

pd arQ — socY-suic rwKx nfl, pivwqrqf kfiem rwKx nfl . soic-suic, pivwqrqf, suwc. n hoveI-nhIN ho skdI . socI-mYN suwc rwKF . cupY-cuwp kr rihx nfl. cup-sLFqI, mn dI cuwp, mn df itkfAu . lfie rhf-mYN lfeI rwKF . ilv qfr-ilv dI qfr, ilv dI zor, iek-qfr smfDI .

not :- ies pAuVI dI pMjvIN quk piVHaF ieh pqf lwgdf hY ik ies pAuVI ivc gurU nfnk sfihb mn ƒ ‘sicafrf’ krn df qrIkf dws rhy hn. sB qoN pihlF AuhnF sfDnF df ijLkr krdy hn jo hor lok vrq rhy hn . qIrQF df iesLnfn, jMglF ivc jf ky smfDI lfAuxI, mn ƒ mfieaf ivc pihlF rjf lYxf, sLfsqRF dI iPlfsPLI-ieh afm prclq qrIky sn . pr siqgurU jI iehnF qoN vwKrf Auh sfDn dwsdy hn, ijs ƒ guriswKI df muwZlf inXm smJ lYxf cfhIdf hY, Bfv, akfl purK dI rjLf ivc qurnf . pihlIaF cOhF qukF dy TIk arQ smJx leI pMjvIN quk vl KLfs iDafn dyxf jLrUrI hY. ‘ikv sicafrf hoeIaY ikv kUVY qutY pfil.’ ies quk ƒ pihlI hryk quk dy nfl piVHaF spwsLt ho jFdf hY ik pihlI hryk quk ivc ‘mn’ df hI ijLkr hY. pihlI quk ivc ‘mn dI suwc’, dUjI ivc ‘mn dI cuwp’, qIjI ivc 'mn dI BuwK' aqy cOQI ivc 'mn dI isafxp' df hfl dwisaf hY .

(pR:) lPLjL 'soic' dy arQ 'suwc' ikAuN kIqy gey hn?

(Au:) mn dIaF socF qy isafxpF ƒ qF cOQI quk ivc vrxn kr idwqf igaf hY, ies vfsqy pihlI quk ivc kuJ hor iKLafl hY, jo hyTlIaF qukF ghu nfl piVHaF spwsLt ho jFdf hY :-

(1) khu nfnk scu iDafeIaY ] suic hovY qF, scu pfeIaY ] (afsf dI vfr)

(2) soc krY idnsu aru rfiq ] mn kI mYl n qn qy jfiq ] (suKmnI)

(3) n suic sMjmu qulsI mflf ] gopI kfnu n gAU goaflf ]

qMqu mMqu pfKMzu n koeI, nf ko vMsu vjfiedf ]7] (mfrU mhlf 1)

'soc' df arQ hY 'iesLnfn', aqy 'suic' df arQ hY 'pivwqrqf' . iehnF hI do sLbdF dI imlfvt df sLbd hY 'soic', ijs df arQ hY suwc, pivwqrqf, iesLnfn . sLbd 'suic' iesqRI ilMg hY . sMsik®q ivc BI ieh iesy hI sLkl ivc hY . ijvyN sLbd 'mn' qoN 'min' bixaf hY, ijs df arQ hY 'mn ivc', ies qrHF 'soc' qoN 'soic' nhIN bx skdf, ikAuNik lPLjL 'mnu' puilMg hY qy 'soc' (ijs df arQ 'ivcfr' hY) iesqRI ilMg hY. so, sLbd 'soic' aiDkrn kfrk dI ( i ) qoN ibnf hI asl srUp vflf sMsik®q df hI lPLjL 'suic' hY, ijs df arQ hY pivwqrqf .

arQ :- jy mYN lwK vfrI (BI) (iesLnfn afidk nfl srIr dI) suwc rwKF, (qF BI ies qrHF) suwc rwKx nfl (mn dI) suwc nhIN rih skdI . jy mYN (srIr dI) iek-qfr smfDI lfeI rwKF; (qF BI ies qrHF) cuwp kr rihx nfl mn dI sLFqI nhIN ho skdI.

so ieMJ ieh spwsLt ho jFdf hY ik ieQy socY dy arQ suwc hn nf ik socxf. dUjI gwl ik "socY" sLbd kyvl iek vfr hI gurU gRMQ sfihb ivc afieaf hY qy kyvl iesy quk ivc hI hY. "soic" sLbd kyvl iqMn vfr krmvfr vyrvf ieMJ hY

1[ socY "soic" n hoveI jy socI lK vfr ]

2[ idl mih soic ibcfir kvfdy, iBsq dojk ikin pfeI ]1] {pMnf-477)

3[ kfjI, sfihbu eyku, qohI mih qyrf, soic ibcfir n dyKY ]

Kbir n krih dIn ky bAury, qf qy jnmu alyKY ]1] {pMnf-483}

pihlI quk dy arQ pivwqrqf hn dUjIaF dovF ivc soc-ivcfr dI gwl ho rhI hY. hux "socI" sLbd vI kyvl iek vfr hI gurU gMRQ sfihb ivc iesy quk ivc hI afieaf.

ies leI dfs vloN dubfrf bynqI hY ik afpxy bhuqy ipAu nhIN kyvl ieko hI hY Auh ieh hY:

sfihbu myrf eyko hY ] eyko hY BfeI eyko hY ]

ies qoN bfd ieh vI pVH lYxf ik

iekf bfxI ieku guru ieko sbdu vIcfir ]

scf sAudf htu scu rqnI Bry BMzfr ]

gur ikrpf qy pfeIain jy dyvY dyvxhfru ] {pMnf 646}

BuwlF leI iKmf

dfs hrijMdr isMG (torFto)

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suKdyv isMG kYlyPornIaf

sR: gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf jI

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf vfihgurU jI kI Piqh]

afp jI ny iGrxf qoN bcky AusfrU vIcfr krn vfsqy ikhf hY, sfnMU sfiraF nMU ieh vIcfr apxf lYxy cfhIdy hn. awgy afp jI ny bRhmigafnI bfry vIcfr idqy hn ik rwb jI hI bRhmigafnI hn. aqy hornF nUM ies bfry vIcfr dyx vfsqy ikhf hY. ies bfry kuJ vIcfr sFJy kr irhF hF.

gurU sfihbfn ny BgqF dI bfxI iekwqr krky poQI prmysr kf Qfnu df nfm idqf. gurU sfihbfnF aqy ijhnf BgqF dI bfxI sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb ivc drj hY, dfs AuhnF nUM bRhmigafnI mMndf hY. AuhnF df iDafn hr vyly bRhm ivc rihMdf sI. ieh mn dI iDafn dI avsQf hY. bRhm igafnI kf Bojnu igafn ] nfnk bRhm igafnI kf bRhm iDafnu ]3]

gurbfxI ivcoN kuJ pMkqIaF df ijkr kr irhf hF aqy arQ pRo: sfihb isMG vfly hn.

bRhmigafnI sdf inrlyp ] jYsy jl mih kml alyp ] bRhmigafnI sdf inrdoK ] jYsy sUru srb kAu soK ] bRhmigafnI kY idRsit smfin ] jYsy rfj rMk kAu lfgY quil pvfn ] bRhmigafnI kY DIrju eyk ] ijAu bsuDf koAU KodY koAU cMdn lyp ] bRhmigafnI kf iehY gunfAu ] nfnk ijAu pfvk kf shj suBfAu ]1] {pMnf 272}

arQ :C bRhmigafnI (mnuwK ivkfrF vloN) sdf-bydfgL (rihMdy hn) ijvyN pfxI ivc (AuWgy hoey) kAul Puwl (icwkV qoN) sfPL huMdy hn .

ijvyN sUrj sfry (rsF) nUM sukf dyNdf hY (iqvyN) bRhmigafnI (mnuwK) (sfry pfpF nUM sfV dyNdy hn) pfpF qoN bcy rihMdy hn .

ijvyN hvf rfjy qy kMgfl nUM ieko ijhI lwgdI hY (iqvyN) bRhmigafnI dy aMdr (sB vl) ieko ijhI njLr (nfl qwkx df suBfAu huMdf) hY .

(koeI Blf khy BfvyN burf, pr) bRhmigafnI mnuwKF dy aMdr iek-qfr hOslf (kfiem rihMdf) hY, ijvyN DrqI nUM koeI qF Koqrdf hY, qy koeI cMdn dy lypx krdf hY (pr DrqI nUM prvfh nhIN) .

hy nfnk ! ijvyN awg df kudrqI suBfAu hY (hryk cIjL dI mYl sfV dyxI) (iqvyN) bRhmigafnI mnuwKF df (BI) iehI gux hY .1.

bRhmigafnI eyk AUpir afs ] bRhmigafnI kf nhI ibnfs ] bRhmigafnI kY grIbI smfhf ] bRhmigafnI prAupkfr Aumfhf ]

arQ :C bRhmigafnI iek akfl purK Auqy afs rwKdf hY; bRhmigafnI (dI AuWcI afqmk avsQf) df kdy nfs nhIN huMdf .bRhmigafnI dy ihrdy ivc grIbI itkI rihMdI hY, aqy Aus nUM dUijaF dI BlfeI krn df (sdf) cfAu (ciVHaf rihMdf) hY .

bRhmigafnI bRhm kf byqf ] bRhmigafnI eyk sMig hyqf ] bRhmigafnI kY hoie aicMq ] bRhmigafnI kf inrml mMq ] bRhmigafnI ijsu krY pRBu afip ] bRhmigafnI kf bz prqfp ] bRhmigafnI kf drsu bzBfgI pfeIaY ] bRhmigafnI kAu bil bil jfeIaY ] bRhmigafnI kAu Kojih mhysur ] nfnk bRhmigafnI afip prmysur ]6] {pMnf 273}

arQ:C bRhmigafnI (mnuwK) akfl purK df mhrm bx jFdf hY aqy Auh iek pRBU nfl hI ipafr krdf hY .bRhmigafnI dy mn ivc (sdf) byiPLkrI rihMdI hY, Aus df AupdysL (BI hornF nUM) pivq7 krn vflf huMdf hY . bRhmigafnI df bVf nfmxf ho jFdf hY (pr AuhI mnuwK bRhmigafnI bxdf hY) ijs nUM pRBU afp bxfAuNdf hY . bRhmigafnI df dIdfr vwzy BfgF nfl pfeIdf hY; bRhmigafnI qoN sdf sdky jfeIey . isLv (afidk dyvqy BI) bRhmigafnI nUM Bfldy iPrdy hn; hy nfnk ! akfl purK afp bRhmigafnI (df rUp) hY .6.

bRhmigafnI sy jn Bey ] nfnk ijn pRBu afip kryie ]2] {pMnf 272}

arQ:C hy nfnk! AuhI mnuwK bRhmigafnI bxdy hn ijnHF nUM pRBU afp bxfAuNdf hY .2.

AuprlIaF pMkqIaF qoN spsLt ho jFdf hY ik pRmfqmf dI ikRpf nfl koeI vI mnuK bRhmigafnI dI avsQf pRfpq kr skdf hY. ijs qrHF BgqF nUM ieh avsQf pRfpq hoeI.

kbIr mnu sIqlu Bieaf pfieaf bRhm igafnu ]

ijin juaflf jgu jfiraf su jn ky Audk smfin ]175](pMnf 1373)

jykr afp Aupr ilKy nfl sihmq nhIN ho qF ikrpf krky dwsxf jI ik afp iehnF pMkqIaF qo kI Bfv lYNdy ho.

gurU sfihbfn aqy BgqF (ijhnF dI bfxI sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwc drj hY) bfry afp jI dI kI rfie hY.

not: (dfs aKOqI sfDF sMqF nUM bRhmigafnI nhIN smJdf. iswK kOm df ijnHf nuksfn iehnF aKOqI sfDF aqy Dfrimk lIzrF ny kIqf hY, sLfied hI iksy hor ny kIqf hovy.)

suKdyv isMG kYlyPornIaf

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gopfl isMG

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(srdfr gopfl isMG jI, qusIN 'isWK mfrg' dy sB qoN purfxy pfTkF ivco iek ho. srdfr gurcrn isMG jI 'isMG sBf' dy bfkI isMGF nfl iml ky ienHF sIzIaF dI muPLq syvf kr rhy hn. Auh ienHF sIzIaF nUM afpxI vYWb sfeIt qy vI pf rhy hn. do ku sIzIaF pfeIaF vI hoeIaF hn. Auh qusIN AuQoN zfAunloz kr skdy ho. Aus df pqf ienHF pfTkF dy pwqrF ivcoN hI iml skdf hY-sMpfdk)

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf)

sR[ qyjf isMG jrmnI vfilaF nUM sunyhf.

sR[ bhfdr bhuq idwn pihlF quhfzI icwTI iswK Drm dy pRcfrk sR[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf dy nfm pVHI sI. ijs ivc qusIN bfbf bMdf isMG bhfdr dy nfm jy Auh koeI ikqfb Cfpxf cfhuMx qF qusIN mwdd krn leI iqafr ho. iesdy jvfb ivc myry iksy imqr ny hI quhfnUM icwTI ilKI sI sLfeId quhfzI njLry nhI cVHI. mYN kwlH hI pRo[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf jI nfl gwl kIqI sI qy quhfzf ijLkr kIqf sI.

sR[ qyjf isMG jI AunHF df sYl PUMn nMbr hY (9216755582)[ Auh CyqI hI jrmnI (PrYNkPOrt) rxjIq isMG horF kol pRcfr vfsqy phuMc rhy hn. nMbr hY (1727309656)[

quhfzf vIr,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn kYnyzf.

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hrijMdr isMG (torFto)

sqpfl isMG (qlivMdr isMG) mrn vflf jI, vfihgurU jI kf KLflsf] vfihgurU jI kI PLiqh]

afpjI dy ivcfr jo ik afp jI ny gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf jI dy lyK bfry idwqy Auh dfs ny pVHy. afp jI dy ivcfrF qoN ijAux vflf pRqI guuwsy aqy nPrq bfry sihjy hI aMdfjf lwg jFdf hY. DMnvfdI hF mwKx isMG jI df jo sfiraF nUM vYbsfeIt AuWpr QF idMdy hn. vYsy ijAux vflf jI ny afpjI nMU jvfb qF dy hI idwqf hY. pr dfs vI ies sMbMDI bynqI krnI cfhuMdf hY . pihlI gwl ik afp jI qF KLud hI duibDf ivc lwgdy ho. nfly ieMJ lwgdf hY ik afp jI ny bfxI nUUM kdI iDafn nfl arQF smyq nhIN ivcfriaf. jykr afp jI ny aijhf kIqf huMdf qF sLfied afp ieh nPrq BrI jLihr nf AuWgldy. iek iensfn jo lokfeI nUM gurbfxI dy igafn nfl joVn leI jLqn kr irhf hY Aus pRqI afp jI jYsy iswK nMU aijhf nhIN sLoBdf. ies leI bynqI hy ik pihlF afp jI gurbfxI df cMgI qrHF aiDan kr ky afAu iPr koeI ivcfr dyxf. ikAuNik jo vI gwlbfq qusIN kIqI Aus ivc koeI igafn dI gwl nhIN kyvl luwJxf hI hY. mrn vflf jI gurbfxI sfrI dI sfrI ivcfr iek hI nukqy Aupr kyNdrq hY ik

ikv sicafrf hoeIaY, ikv kUVY qutY pfil ]

pRØBU nfloN jIv dI ivwQ imtfx df ieko hI qrIkf hY ik jIv Aus dI rjLf ivc qury. ieh asUl Dur qoN hI rwb vloN jIv leI jrUrI hY. ipqf dy khy ivc puwqr qurdf rhy qF ipafr, nf qury qF ivwQ pYNdI jFdI hY.

mrn vflf jI, nfm ikvyN jpxf hY ies df PYslf vI sfihb sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI afp hI krdy hn ikvyN iDafn nfl awKF KolH ky pVHnf nfik aKOqI bRhmigafnIaF dy kihx vFg awKF bMd krky :-

bfxI nfmdyAu jIAu kI rfmklI Gru 1 ÃÄ siqgur pRsfid ]

afnIly kfgdu kftIly gUzI, afkfs mDy BrmIaly ]

pMc jnf isAu bfq bqAUaf, cIqu su zorI rfKIaly ]1]

mnu rfm nfmf byDIaly ] jYsy kink klf icqu mFzIaly ]1] rhfAu ]

afnIly kuMBu BrfeIly AUdk, rfj kuafir purMdrIey ]

hsq ibnod bIcfr krqI hY, cIqu su gfgir rfKIaly ]2]

mMdru eyku duafr ds jf ky, gAU crfvn CfzIaly ]

pFc kos pr gAU crfvq, cIqu su bCrf rfKIaly ]3]

khq nfmdyAu sunhu iqlocn, bflku pfln pAuZIaly ]

aMqir bfhir kfj ibrUDI, cIqu su bfirk rfKIaly ]4]1] {pMnf 972}

arQ :—(hy iqRlocn!) ijvyN suinafry df mn (hornF nfl gwlF-bfqF kridaF BI, kuTflI ivc pfey hoey sony ivc) juiVaf rihMdf hY, iqvyN myrf mn prmfqmf dy nfm ivc ivwJf hoieaf hY .1.rhfAu. (hy iqRlocn! vyK, muMzf) kfgLjL ilafAuNdf hY, Aus dI guwzI kwtdf hY qy guwzI ƒ asmfn ivc AuzfAuNdf hY, sfQIaF nfl gwpF BI mfrI jFdf hY, pr Aus df mn (guwzI dI) zor ivc itikaf rihMdf hY .1. (hy iqRlocn!) juafn kuVIaF sLihr ivcoN (bfhr jFdIaF hn) afpo afpxf GVf cuwk lYNdIaF hn, pfxI nfl BrdIaF hn, (afpo ivc) hwsdIaF hn, hfsy dIaF gwlF qy hor keI ivcfrF krdIaF hn, pr afpxf icwq afpo afpxy GVy ivc rwKdIaF hn .2. (hy iqRlocn!) iewk Gr hY ijs dy ds bUhy hn, ies GroN mnuwK gAUaF cfrn leI Cwzdf hY;

ieh gfeIaF pMjF kohF qy jf cugdIaF hn, pr afpxf icwq afpxy vwCy ivc rwKdIaF hn (iqvyN hI ds-ieMidRaF-vfly ies srIr ivcoN myry igafn-ieMdRy srIr dy inrbfh leI kMm-kfr krdy hn, pr myrI surq afpxy pRBU-crnF ivc hI hY) .3.

hy iqRlocn! sux, nfmdyv (iek hor idRsLtFq) afKdf hY—mF afpxy bfl ƒ pMGUVy ivc pFdI hY, aMdr bfhr Gr dy kMmF ivc ruwJI rihMdI hY, pr afpxI surq afpxy bwcy ivc rwKdI hY .4.1.

Bfv : pRIiq df srUp—kMm-kfr kridaF surq hr vyly pRBU dI Xfd ivc rhy .

ies Auprokq Purmfn qoN ielfvf Bgq kbIr jI dy hyTF idwqy hukm nMU mrn vflf jI afpxy dsm duafr Bfv idmfg nMU KolH ky pVHo

nfmf mfieaf moihaf, khY iqlocnu mIq ]

kfhy CIphu CfielY, rfm n lfvhu cIqu ]212]

nfmf khY iqlocnf, muK qy rfmu sMmÙfil ]

hfQ pfAu kir kfmu sBu, cIqu inrMjn nfil ]213] (pMnf 1375-1376)

kbIr jI iehnF sLlokF ivc nfmdyv aqy iqRlocn dI afpo ivc hoeI gwl-bfq df ijLkr krdy hn . ieh sfrf iKLafl AuhI hY jo nfmdyv jI ny afp rfmklI rfg dy sLbd ivc idwqf hY . sfQIaF nfl gwpF mfrdy iek muMzy df kfgLjL dI guwzI Auzfxf, rl ky gwlF krdIaF kuVIaF df KUh qoN pfxI Br ky ilafAuxf, gfeIaF df vwiCaF qoN judf ho ky bfhr Gfh cugx jfxf, mF df afpxy inwky bwcy ƒ pMGUVy qy suaf ky Gr dy kMm-kfj ivc lwgxf—ieh sfry kMm-kfr huMidaF hoieaF BI muMzy dI suriq guwzI ivc, kuVIaF dI suriq afpo afpxy GVy ivc, hryk gF dI suriq afpxy vwCy ivc, qy, mF dI suriq bwcy ivc huMdI hY . nfmdyv jI dy Aus sLbd df sMKyp Bfv kbIr jI iehnF do sLlokF ivc dy rhy hn . ies qoN ieh sfPL nqIjf inkldf hY ik kbIr jI dy pfs nfmdyv jI df Auh sfrf sLbd mOjUd sI koeI ajb gwl nhIN ik nfmdyv jI dI sfrI hI bfxI kbIr jI dy pfs hovy, ikAuNik dovyN hm-iKLafl sn aqy dovyN hI bRfhmx dy Dfrimk dbfAu ƒ qoVn dI kosLsL kr rhy sn .

arQ:—iqRlocn afKdf hY—hy imwqR nfmdyv! qUM qF mfieaf ivc Pisaf jfpdf hYN . ieh aMbry ikAuN Tyk irhf hYN? prmfqmf dy (crnF) nfl ikAuN icwq nhIN joVdf? .212.

nfmdyv (awgoN) AuWqr dyNdf hY—hy iqRlocn! mUMh nfl prmfqmf df nfm lY; hwQ pYr vrq ky sfrf kMm-kfj kr, aqy afpxf icq mfieaf-rihq prmfqmf nfl joV .213.

mrn vflf jI sLfied hux afp jI pqf lwg igaf hovy ik gurbfxI nf qF ikqy smfDI lfky aqy nf hI iksy iek mMqr df rtn krn leI kihMdI hY. jykr ajy vI sLMkf hY qF vyKo

sloku m: 3 ] rfmu rfmu krqf sBu jgu iPrY, rfmu n pfieaf jfie ] agmu agocru aiq vzf aqulu n quilaf jfie ] kImiq iknY n pfeIaf ikqY n lieaf jfie ] gur kY sbid Byidaf ien ibiD visaf min afie ] nfnk afip amyAu hY gur ikrpf qy rihaf smfie ] afpy imilaf imil rihaf afpy imilaf afie ]1] {pMnf 555}

arQ :—sfrf sMsfr (mUMhoN) ‘rfm, rfm’ afKdf iPrdf hY pr ies qrHF ‘rfm’ lwiBaf nhIN jFdf; ikAuNik Auh aphuMc hY ieMidRaF dI phuMc qoN pry hY, bVf vwzf hY aquwl hY qy qoilaf nhIN jf skdf, iksy Aus dI kImiq nhIN pfeI (Bfv, AusdI pRfpqI df muwl iksy ƒ pqf nhIN) qy iksy QF qoN (muwl dy ky) ilaf BI nhIN jFdf . (pr hF, iewk qrIkf hY) jy gurU dy sLbd nfl (mn) ivMinHaf jfey qF ies qrHF pRBU mn ivc af vwsdf hY . hy nfnk! pRBU afp qF imxqI qoN pry hY, pr siqgurU dI ikrpf nfl (ieh pqf iml jFdf hY ik Auh sfrI isRsLtI ivc) ivafpk hY; pRBU afp hI hr QF imilaf hoieaf hY qy (jIv dy ihrdy ivc) afp hI af ky prgt huMdf hY .1.

mrn vflf jI hor vyKo gurU sfihb ikvyN sfzy sfiraF dIaF awKF Koldy hn qy dsdy hn ik krm kFz kIiqaF kuJ nhIN imldf sgoNik hor Btkxf hI vwDdI hY

soriT mhlf 5 Gru 2 astpdIaf ÃÄsiqgur pRsfid ]

pfTu piVE aru bydu bIcfirE invil BuaMgm sfDy ]

pMc jnf isAu sMgu n CutikE aiDk ahMbuiD bfDy ]1]

ipafry ien ibiD imlxu n jfeI mY kIey krm anykf ]

hfir pirE suafmI kY duafrY dIjY buiD ibbykf ] rhfAu ] {pMnf 641}

arQ :—hy BfeI! koeI mnuwK vyd (afidk Drm-pusqk ƒ) pVHdf hY aqy ivcfrdf hY . koeI mnuwK invlI krm krdf hY, koeI kuMzlnI nfVI rsqy pRfx cfVHdf hY . (pr iehnF sfDnF nfl kfmfidk) pMjF nfloN sfQ muwk nhIN skdf . (sgoN) vDIk ahMkfr ivc (mnuwK) bwJ jFdy hn .1.

hy BfeI! myry vyKidaF lok anykF hI (imQy hoey Dfrimk) krm krdy hn, pr iehnF qrIikaF nfl prmfqmf dy crnF ivc juiVaf nhIN jf skdf . hy BfeI! mYN qF iehnF krmF df afsrf Cwz ky mflk-pRBU dy dr qy af izwgf hF (qy arjLoeI krdf rihMdf hF—hy pRBU! mYƒ BlfeI burfeI dI) prK kr skx vflI akl dyh .rhfAu.

gurU amrdfs jI anMd sfihb dI bfxI ivc afKdy hn ik krm kFz nfl sihj nhIN imldf

krmI shju n AUpjY, ivxu shjY shsf n jfie ]

nh jfie shsf ikqY sMjim, rhy krm kmfey]

shsY jIAu mlIxu hY ikqu sMjim Doqf jfey ]

mMnu Dovhu sbid lfghu, hir isAu rhhu icqu lfie ]

khY nfnku, gur prsfdI shju AupjY, iehu shsf iev jfie ]18] {pMnf 919}

arQ :—mfieaf dy moh ivc Psy irhF mn ivc sdf qOKLlf-sihm bixaf rihMdf hY, (ieh) qOKLlf-sihm afqmk afnMd qoN ibnf dUr nhIN huMdf, (qy,) afqmk afnMd bfhroN Dfrimk jfpdy krm kIiqaF pYdf nhIN ho skdf . anykF bMdy (ajyhy) krm kr kr ky hfr gey hn, pr mn df qOKLlf-sihm ajyhy iksy qrIky nfl nhIN jFdf . (ijqnf icr) mn sihm ivc (hY Auqnf icr) mYlf rihMdf hY, mn dI ieh mYl iksy (bfhrlI) jugqI nfl nhIN DupdI . (hy BfeI!) gurU dy sLbd ivc juVo, prmfqmf dy crnF ivc sdf icwq joVI rwKo, (jy) mn (Doxf hY qF ies qrHF) Dovo . nfnk afKdf hY—gurU dI ikrpf nfl hI (mnuwK dy aMdr) afqmk afnMd pYdf huMdf hY, qy ies qrHF mn df qOKLlf-sihm dUr ho jFdf hY .18.

mrn vflf BfeI sfihb jI vyiKaf ikvyN gurU sfihb krm kFzIaF dy iBAuN - iBAuN ky iCwqr mfrdy hn qy nfl hI dsdy vI hn ik krm kFz krn nfl kuJ nhIN bxnf. iksy iek awKr df rtn vI iek krm kFz hI hY. gurU sfihb qF sihj ivc rih ky hI pRBu dy gux gfien krn leI kihMdy hn qy qrIkf pihlF hI ibafn ho cuwkf hY ik gux gfien krny ikvyN hn. hor gwl afp jI jYsy bRhmigafnIaF ny hI gurU qyg bhfdur sfihb jI nMU keI sfl Bory ivc bYT ky smfDI lf ky aKOqI ismrn kridaF ieiqhfs ivc vrxn kr idwqf jdik Aus smyN Auh sqvIN pfqsLfhI gurU hir rfey sfihb jI dy hukm anusfr pUrbI Bfrq ivc gurmiq pRcfr kr rhy sn. hux qusIN ieh n afK dyxf ik ieh sfry qF ihMdUaF dy krm kFzF bfry gwl ho rhI hY. nhIN jI gurbfxI hryk smyN lfgU huMdI hY. vyKo gurU arjn sfihb ikvyN prmfqmf dy gux gfien krny AusdI isPq slfh krn df qrIkf sfnMU hyT idwqy gurvfk ivc smJfAuNdy hn

afsf mhlf õ .. AUTq bYTq sovq iDafeIaY .. mfrig clq hry hir gfeIaY ..ñ.. sRvn sunIjY aMimRq kQf .. jfsu sunI min hoie anMdf dUK rog mn sgly lQf ..ñ.. rhfAu .. kfrij kfim bft Gft jpIjY .. gur pRsfid hir aMimRqu pIjY ..ò.. idnsu rYin hir kIrqnu gfeIaY .. so jnu jm kI vft n pfeIaY ..ó.. afT phr ijsu ivsrih nfhI .. giq hovY nfnk iqsu lig pfeI ..ô..ñú..öñ.. {pMnf óøö}

arQ :—(hy BfeI!) kMnF nfl (prmfqmf dI) afqmk jIvn dyx vflI isÌiq-sflfh suxdy rihxf cfhIdf hY ijs dy suixaF mn ivc afqmk afnMd pYdf huMdf hY qy mn dy sfry duwK rog dUr ho jFdy hn .ñ.rhfAu.(hy BfeI!) AuTidaF bYTidaF suwiqaF (jfgidaF hr vyly) prmfqmf ƒ Xfd krdy rihxf cfhIdf hY, rsqy quridaF BI sdf prmfqmf dI isÌiq-sflfh krdy rihxf rihxf cfhIdf hY .ñ. (hy BfeI!) hryk kMm kfj kridaF, rfhy quridaF, pwqx lMGidaF prmfqmf df nfm jpdy rihxf cfhIdf hY qy gurU dI ikrpf dI brkiq nfl afqmk jIvn dyx vflf hir-nfm jl pINdy rihxf cfhIdf hY .ò. (hy BfeI!) idn rfq prmfqmf dI isÌiq-sflfh df gIq gFdy rihxf cfhIdf hY (jyhVf ieh kMm krdf rihMdf hY) iËMdgI dy sÌr ivc afqmk mOq Aus dy nyVy nhIN ZuwkdI .ó. hy nfnk! (afK—hy pRBU!) ijs mnuwK ƒ awTy phr iksy (vyly BI) qUM nhIN ivsrdf, Aus dI crnIN lwg ky (hor mnuwKF ƒ BI) AuWcI afqmk avsQf iml jFdI hY .ô.ñú.öñ.

vIr sqpfl isMG (qlivNdr isMG) mrn vflf jI, afp jI ny afpxy dsm duafr nMU Kol ky sfry gur Purmfnf nUM jykr surq joV ky pVH ilaf hovygf qF hux koeI sLMkf bfkI nhIN rihxI cfhIdI ik gurbfxI iksy iek Kfs aWKr df rtn jF jfp krn kihMdI hY.

gur PLiqh jI.

dfs hrijMdr isMG (torFto)

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Sardar Gurcharn singh (Jeonwala) Brampton Ji

 Gur Fateh Parvan Hove.

 I am very glad to read an answer given by yourself to my query to sikhmarg.com. I have read almost all of your writings posted on sikhmarg.com and i m very impressed. I also thank you to do Panth Sewa through Kalam.

 Your effort to send me a set of CDs as you mentioned in response to my query on sikhmarg.com, will be highly appreciated. For your friend who is coming to Australia Tuesday, My contact number is 0416 120 481 or he can hand them over to my Satkaryog Taya Ji, Giani Santokh Singh Ji, known to almost all Sikh Sangat of Australia and he can be found in Gurdwara Sahib Parklea in Sydney everyday.

 If you allow, i wish to copy and distribute the talked about CD's to my friends and relatives who already asking me for, after reading your response.

 Bahut Bahut Dhanwad.

 For Chardi Kala of Sikh Panth.

 Hardep Singh

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gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

hrdIp isMG astrylIaf jI!!

quhfnUM ijhVI Kbr imlI hY Auh iblkul swcI hY. sR[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf jI iesy sfl hI quhfzy kol gurU nfnk sfihb dy imsLn nUM lY ky afstrylIaf dI DrqI qy pRcfr krn leI phuMc jfxgy. ies pRcfr dOry df ieMqjLfm ‘isMG sBf ieMtrnYsLnl kYnyzf’ kr rhI hY. ijs sI[ zI df qusIN ijLkr kIqf hY ies vI isMG sBf kYnyzf ny hI iqafr krky sR[ gurmIq isMG afstrylIaf nUM ByjI sI. asl ivc ieh cfr aYm[ pI[ 3 plyar qy cwlx vflIaF sI[zIjL hn qy kul imlf ky 128-130 GMty df pRogrfm Biraf hoieaf hY. ijs ivc ‘jpu’ ivafiKaf igafnI hrBjn isMG inAuXfrk vfilaF dI hY qy bfkI do sI[ zIjL vIr BuipMdr isMG inAuXfrk vfilaF dIaF hn. sR[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf df sYl PUn nMbr hY: 9216755582 qusIN sMprk kr skdy ho. jy kr iksy vjHf krky qusIN sR[ gurmIq isMG astrylIaF nfl sMprk nhI kr skdy qF sfnUM dwsxf. ienHF sI[ zIjL df pUrf sYt asIN Byj dyvFgy. pRcfr muihMm nUM qyj krn dI bhuq jLrUrq hY. sfD bfibaF ny qF iswKI nUM afr[ aYs[aYs dI syD muqfbk Kqm hI kr idwqf hY. iswKI isrP sihkdI hI njLr af rhI hY. myrf sYl PUn quhfnUM sR[ mwKx isMG jI horF koloN iml skdf hY. jy kr qusIN sI[zIjL bfry iewk do idn ivc sUcnf Byj idEgy qF mMglvfr nUM myry koloN iewk imqr afstrylIaf af hI irhf hY qy musLkl nUM sihjy hI hwl kIqf jf skdf hY

quhfzf vIr,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn kYnyzf.

(not:- asIN huxy hI 21 aprYl 2006 nUM kuwJ imMt pihlF srdfr ieMdr isMG 'Gwgf' nfl gwl kIqI sI. AunHF nUM amrIkf aqy ieMglYNz df vIjLf qF iml cuwkf hY, knyzf aqy hor dysLF df vIjLf CyqIN hI imlx dI sMBfvnf hY. AunHF dy dwsx muqfbk sLfied meI dy pihly hPqy qwk pRcfr dOrf sLurU ho jfvy. pihlF Auh jrmn qy ieMglYNz ivc afAuxgy - sMpfdk)

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Sardar Makhan singh Ji,

Wahe guru ji ka khalsa,

Wahe guru ji ke fateh.

Veer ji you are doing wonderful job. We starting waiting for Sunday from even Monday so we can read some more what we are now what we use to be how we can mold our future with the take of gurbani. I am driving taxi in Sanjose one day I was reading on my laptop one veer came to me he get so happy to see that, what he raised one question. Why you write [ kugh parsid bania from guru granth sahib]? He said, whole guru granth sahib ji parsid. I tell him I will bring in your notice so I think you understand but he try to say. But more then all you now more than us.

You can call me my phone is 1408 580 6063

Thanks again for your great job .

Wahe guru ji ka khalsa

Wahe guru ji ke fathe

Harbaksh Singh

(hrbKLsL isMG jI ‘isWK mfrg’ nUM pVHn df aqy icWTI ilKx df sLukrIaf. afp jI dy dosq vIr ny jo pRisWD bfxIaf ilKx bfry svfl kIqf hY ies qrFH dy svfl pihlF vI kuwJ swjx kr cuwky hn. vIr jI gurU bfxI koeI vI hovy iek dUjI qoN cMgI jF mfVI nhI hY. sfrf gurU gRMQ sfihb hI igafn df KjLfnf hY. sfrI bfxI ivc hI igafn aqy aMimRq BrpUr hY. pRisWD ilKx qoN mqlb isrP ieqnf hI hY ik ijhVIaF bfxIaF dy nfm ijafdf isWK sMgqF jfxdIaF hn aqy ienHF bfxIaF df ijLadf rojLfnf pfT kIqf jFdf hY. ieh ijLafdf krky AunHF vIrF leI hn ijhVy ik pVHy ilKy hn pr bfxI kMT nhI hY aqy Auh afiPsF ivc kMm krdy hn. jdoN vI AunHF kol tfeIm hovy qF Auh pVH skx. ies bfry sfnUM keI icWTI pwqr vI imly sn. ieh bfxIaF asIN iemjL bxf ky pfeIaF hoeIaF hn ies leI ieh hr kMipAUtr qy pVHIaF jf skdIaF hn. ieMtrinWt qy aMgryjLI qoN ibnHF hor BfsLfvF nUM pfAux leI PONtF dI kfPI smwisaf af rhI hY. BfvyN ik ivMzo aYkspI aqy XUnIkoz PONtF nfl ieh kuwJ hwl kr leI geI hY pr ieh priPkt nhIN hY. ivMzo aYkspI qoN ibnF ivMzo 98 qy ienHF XUnIkoz PONtF dIaF lgF mfqrF TIk qrHF kMm nhIN krdIaF aqy sLfied sfry vYWb brfAusrF qy aqy hor EpryitMg isstmF qy vI nf kMm krdIaF hox-sMpfdk)

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sqpfl isMG (qlivMdr isMG) mrn vflf jI dy nfm kuwJ svfl?

iewk guriswK, jo gurbfxI dI ieqnI jfxkfrI rwKdf hY ijqnI quhfnUM hY, nUM iksy vI mnuwK nfl ieqnI iGrxf/nPrq nhI krxI cfhIdI.

gurU Purmfx hY: pr kf burf n rfKhu cIq ] qum kAu duKu nhI BfeI mIq ]3] m:5, pMnf 386]

myry ipMz df nfm ijAux vflf hY, cox hlkf pMjgrfeIN, ijLlf PrIdkot qy Qfxf kotkpUrf hY, qusIN qsdIk kr skdy ho. jo dIsY so ivxsxf sB ibnis ibnfsI] {pMnf 1100} dy Purmfx dy Ault jf ky mYN afpxy afp nUM ijAux vflf nhI ilK skdf. ies krky quhfnUM vI pqf nhI ik qusIN kdoN mrnf hY qy afpxy nfm nfl mrn vflf ilK ky qusIN kuwJ pRfpwq nhI kr rhy sgoN iksy nf iksy gurU Purmfx dy Ault hI jf rhy hovogy. iGrxf qoN bco qy vDIaf vIcfr, jo sfnUM kuwJ isKfAuNdI hY, krn leI jLrUr qwqpr rho. iksy df mUMh qy hwQ qusIN PV nhI skdy.

qusIN ieh dwsx dI ikRpflqf krnI ik guru sfihb rwb jI, pRmfqmf jF iksy vI hor nfm nfl jfxy jfx vfly akfl purK, df jdoN smfijk rUp/icqr bfxI ivc icqrdy hn qF Aus qoN qusIN kI smJdy ho?

rwb jI nUM imlx qoN qusIN kI Bfv lYNdy ho?

pRmfqmf nUM pfAux qoN qusIN kI smJdy ho?

bRhmigafnI suK shj invfs ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kf nhI ibnfs ]5] {pMnf 273}

bRhmigafnI bRhm kf byqf ] bRhmigafnI eyk sMig hyqf ] bRhmigafnI kY hoie aicMq ] bRhmigafnI kf inrml mMq ] bRhmigafnI ijsu krY pRBu afip ] bRhmigafnI kf bz prqfp ] bRhmigafnI kf drsu bzBfgI pfeIaY ] bRhmigafnI kAu bil bil jfeIaY ] bRhmigafnI kAu Kojih mhysur ] nfnk bRhmigafnI afip prmysur ]6] {pMnf 273}

bRhmigafnI sB isRsit kf krqf ] bRhmigafnI sd jIvY nhI mrqf ] bRhmigafnI mukiq jugiq jIa kf dfqf ] bRhmigafnI pUrn purKu ibDfqf ] bRhmigafnI anfQ kf nfQu ] bRhmigafnI kf sB AUpir hfQu ] bRhmigafnI kf sgl akfru ] bRhmigafnI afip inrMkfru ] bRhmigafnI kI soBf bRhmigafnI bnI ] nfnk bRhmigafnI srb kf DnI ]8]8] {pMnf 273-274}

awTvIN sfrI astpdI ivc iksy admI dy bRhmigafnI hox df koeI ijLkr nhI ikAuNik koeI vI afdmI sfrI isRsLtI df/bRhm df igafn nhI rwK skdf, qy koeI vI mnuwK jo mF dy pytoN pYdf hoieaf hY mrn vflf hY pr gurU jI ieh PurmfAuNdy hn ik, bRhmigafnI suK shj invfs ] nfnk bRhmigafnI kf nhI ibnfs ]5] {pMnf 273}, bRhmigafnI sB isRsit kf krqf ] bRhmigafnI sd jIvY nhI mrqf ], ies krky rwb jI afp hI bRhmigafnI hn. jy quhfnUM kuwJ hor lwBy qF jLrUr ilKxf.

jy iksy iewk lPjL df rtn krnf ‘nfm jpxf’ hY qF gurU Purmfx df hvflf idE jI? gurU jI qoN pihlF pMizq lok bhuq jfp krdy sn qy awj vI hrIduafr vyKy jf skdy hn. ies krky jfp jpx qy iksy iewk lPjL dy rtn nUM gurU jI ienHF PurmfxF nfl kwtdy hn:

jpu qpu sMjmu Drmu n kmfieaf ] syvf sfD n jfinaf hir rfieaf ] khu nfnk hm nIc krMmf ] srix pry kI rfKhu srmf ]2]4] {pMnf12}

isrI rfgu mhlf 1 ] jpu qpu sMjmu sfDIaY qIriQ kIcY vfsu ] pMun dfn cMigafeIaf ibnu sfcy ikaf qfsu ] jyhf rfDy qyhf luxY ibnu gux jnmu ivxfsu ]1]

jpu qpu sMjmu mnY mfih, ibnu nfvY iDRgu jIvfsu ] gurmqI nfAu pfeIaY, minmuK moih ivxfsu ] ijAu BfvY iqAu rfKu qUM, nfnku qyrf dfsu ]2] {pMnf 86}

jpu qpu sMjmu Coiz suikRq miq, rfm nfmu n arfiDaf] AuCilaf kfmu, kfl miq lfgI, qAu afin skiq gil bFiDaf ]2]

gAuVI mflf mhlf 5 ] hir ibnu avr ik®af ibrQy ] jp qp sMjm krm kmfxy ieih ErY mUsy ]1] rhfAu ]

gurmuiK hovY su mgu pCfxY hir ris rsn rsfeI ] jpu qpu sMjmu sBu gur qy hovY ihrdY nfmu vsfeI ] nfnk nfmu smflih sy jn sohin dir sfcY piq pfeI ]4]7] {pMnf 602}

AuprlIaF sfrIaF pMgqIaF ivc iksy aYsy nfm jpx df KMzx kIqf igaf hY ijs dI qusIN vkflq krdy ho. guru gRMQ sfihb afpf ivroDI nhI hn ies krky ausIN awKrI arQ krky bhuq sfry slokF dI ivafiKaf df nfs mfr idMdy hF. jy kr iksy iPrky, iksy tksfl jF iksy sfD ny lokF nUM aMimRq CkfAux vyly kMn ivc nfm dyxf sLurU kr idwqf hY qF ieh iswK isDFq nhI bx igaf. ieh pRMprf hY smyN nfl bdl vI skdI hY. guru mhFrfj dI bfxI bMdy nUM bMdf bxfAuNdI hY. pr awj sfrf kuwJ iesdy Ault clf idwqf igaf hY. jo afdmI aMimRq Cwk lYNdf hY Aus dy mUMh ivcoN awg hI inkldI hY, dUsiraF nUM jIv vI nhI smJdf mnuwK smJxf qF pry dI gwl hY, bfkIaF nUM afpxy nfloN GwtIaf smJdf hY jdoN ik gurbfxI sfiraf nUM brfbrqf df drjf idMdI hY. jo lok, lokF dy kMnF ivc nfm pfeI jf rhy hn, AunHF nUM ieh swB mubfrk pr ieh guru isDFq dy Ault hY.

arQ sfry pRo[ sLfihb isMG jI dy hI huMdy hn. ikDry ikDry lMby arQF nUM sMKyp krn vfsqy mYN afpxy koloN kuwJ awKr jLrUr vrqdf hF pr ikDry vI gurU isDFq dy Ault jfx dI ihMmq nhI kIqI. quhfnUM sLfeId koeI BulyKf lwg igaf lwgdf hY.

quhfzI icwTI df jvfb ienHF svflF dy Auwqr afAux qoN bfad jLrUr ilKFgf.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

isMG sBf ieMtrnYsLnl kYnyzf,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

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sLivMdr isMG igwl

aqI siqkfr Xog s[ gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) jI, gur Piqh prvfn hovy jI, srsf ndI ropV dy njdIk, jdo asIN kIrqpur vwl BfKVf nihr dy nfl nfl pwkI sVk rfhIN jFdy hF qF ijhVI brsfqI coa/ndI (strIm jF tribAUtrI) dy Aupr dI BfKVf nihr gujrdI hY, Bfv krfs krdI hY srsf ndI aKvFdI hY. ies qrF dI jgf ijQy koeI nihr iksy ndI nUM pfr krdI hY aYikAuzwkt aKvFdI hY. so ijQy BfKVf nihr srsf ndI nUM pfr krdI hY, srsf aYikAuzwkt dy nfm nfl jfxI jFdI hY. iesy jgf dy swjy pfsy iek rylvy lfeIn vI srsf ndI dy Aupr dI lMGdI hY. rylvy birj jF pul vI bhuq Cotf hY sLfied iqMn pYnl qoN Gwt hI hovygf. afm hflq ivc ajyhy pul bnfAux qoN pihlF ipCly sYkVy sflF dy vwD qo vwD pfxI dy ihsfb dI imxqI krky hI PYslf kIqf jFdf hY. ijs bysn jF kYcimMt eyrIaf df brsfq df pfxI srsf ndI ivc afAudf hY Aus ivc vI koeI vfDf Gftf hoieaf nhIN idsdf. ieh qwq sfbq krdy hn ik srsf ndI iek sfDfrn brsfqI nflf/coa hI hY ijs ivc kdy vI bMdy zobU pfxI nhIN vigaf mMinaF jf skdf . bfkI sfzy ieqhfs ivc bhuq gpfAuVy jV idqy gey hn jo ik sfzy ilKfrIaF nUM soDxy cfhIdy hn. mhFrfjy rxjIq isMG ny sqluj diraf nUM kdy vI ardfs krky atkfieaf nhI suixaF. ajyhy gurmiq ivroDI dI ardfs ikvyN kbUl ho skdI hY. sLfied rxjIq isMG ny awtk ndI pfr kIqI sI Auh ndI vI iek brsfqI nfly qo vwD nhIN hY.

gurU pMQ df dfs,

sLivMdr isMG igl[

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gurpRIq isMG smrf

Satpal Singh ji’s letter, was like a puzzle, at least for me. I could not understand what is he trying to say. The meanings of Gurbani, that he has quoted, given by Gurcharan Singh jeonwala , if they are not correct, then Satpal Singh ji should have given the proper meaning so that we could have got the true meanings. Or atleast Satpal Singh ji should have provided the meanings and left it on the readers to decide what is correct or what is not.

The way Satpal Singh ji has raised objection on Brahmgyani, it looks they are fan of some living Brahmgyani, or has been deeply hurt on knowing that only Akal Purakh can be Brahmgyani himself. I think Satpal Singh ji can throw some light on some Brahmgyanis they know, as "Brahmgyani ki gat, brahmgyani jaane". I can only say Akal Purakh as Brahmgyani, I can not say about others like Satpal Singh ji because atleast I am not Brahmgyani.

Then another objection "anik bandhan maya-------" is also out of my limited understanding. Satpal Singh ji has nowhere mentioned or given the brahmgyani’s perspective on this shabad as well.

Then Satpal Singh ji says that continuous repetition of some bani like mantar is told by Guru in Gurbani. Further gives a quote "man meh jyot jyot main manua panch mile gurbhai,nanak tin ke sad balhari jin (1 sabad) liv layi"

1 sabad in bracket? Any special significance?

As per my understanding it means that we should read Gurbani that connects us with one lord, akal purakh, that praises akal purakh, those who do this there thoughts are always with one Akal purakh and all their five vices comes under control and they remember lord all the time.

It means that if we do this ,we will always remember lord. Where does it indicate that you should do some rattan like mantar, again and again. Ofcourse reading bani is very important, but it should be done with a purpose of understanding it. We should read as much bani as we can with a purpose of understanding it, but the type of liv that Satpal Singh ji has said , that is hanuman chalisa or gayatri mantar type liv.

Satpal Singh ji should have explained how we should do the rattan so that we can start as early as possible. I have a question , Suppose there is a Sikh who works 14 hours a day to earn his livelihood, he does his nitnem as time permits and then has no time left. What is the procedure for that Sikh for connecting his liv with waheguru by doing some rattan, as he has to sleep as well. If he cant do this then what he should do?

Please advise for the type of bani for such type of Sikhs so that they can connect their liv.

I am really confused about Brahmgyani concept, you have found some Brahmgyani (must have found) that’s why you are so upset, that Brahmgyani can not be Akal Purakh or you are looking some Brahmgyani?

I recall an incident told to me, Once a doctor went to a mental hospital. he was walking by a room and saw a guy holding his ear to the wall, so the doc went to that guy and pushed him aside and tried to listen so the doc put his ear against the wall and said i don't hear anything. that guy slaped the doctor and said i'm listening to this wall for 20 years i don't hear anything you just came and how the hell can you hear something.

I think the same way you are looking for Brahmgyanis other then Akal Purakh.

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hrdIp isMG afstRylIaf

Respected Editor Jee,

Kindly forward this message to Ati Satkaryog Sardar Inder Singh Ji Ghagha as i do not have his contact details.

Parm Satkaryog Bapu (S. Inder Singh Ji) ji

Gur Fateh Parwan hove.

I am Hardeep Singh resident of Sydney, Australia. I am a profound reader and listener of your highly valuable views regarding Sikh Dharm, history and Gurbani. Your thoughts give me and my family proper guidelines to live according to Gurbani. My respected Taya Ji Giani Santokh Singh Ji gave me an MP3 CD a couple of weeks ago. It opened my eyes and brain wide. How clear and simple you told us about many Irreligious activities we perform knowingly or unknowingly in our daily life. I cant wait for every Monday to read your article on Sikhmarg.com.

Dear Bapu ji, about two weeks ago, a Gursikh in Gurdwara Sahib Parklea in Sydney told me that yourself were coming to Sydney soon. I became very excited and told many others including my Taya Ji, about your prospective 'Aamad'. But, now no one knows anything about that. Could you please let me know about the authenticity of this news. If you feel comfortable, may know when you are coming in Sydney to NIHAAL Australia's Sangat?

Bahut Bahut Dhannwad Sahet,

Tuhada Baccha

Hardeep Singh

Marayong, NSW Australia

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sqpfl isMG (qlivMdr isMG)

isWK iPlfsÌr s: gurcrn isMG jI (ijAUx vflf ) nfl do gwlF

smyN dy nfl clxF keI vfr smyN dI jrUrq huMdI hY aqy keI vfr mËbUrI . nF cfhuMidaf hoieaF vI kuJ ilKx jF iksy bihs ivwc Èfml hoxf lfËmI ho jfdf hY. ieho ijhf hI iek kfrn aj dI ies ilKq df hY. ipCly hPqy s: sfihb ijAUx vflf sfihb jI df iek lyK Cipaf ijs ivwc AunHF ny afpxI ivdwvqf df Kuwl ky pRdrÈn kIqf hY . kuJ svfl Auh sfzy leI vI Cz gey hn . ieMj lgdf sI ik Auh jvfb dI qlfÈ ivwc hn .

lyK nUM pVHky sUJvfn pfTk jrUr smJ gey hoxgy ik isrlyK kI hY qy jo kuJ hyTF iliKaf hY Auh kI sfbq krdf hY . mYN ijAUx vflf jI dIaF ilKqF dy kuJ hor nmUny agy ilK irhf hF jo rihMdI ksr vI pUrI kr dyxgy. ijnHF nUM pVHky Èfied pfTk vI myry nfl sihmq ho jfx ik jo mYN kih irhf hF TIk vI ho skdf hY. jo kuJ vI ilKFgf Auhdy sbUq jdoN vI koeI gurisK vIr BfeI vyKxy cfhy siqgurU sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI aqy isK sMgqF dI kcihrI ivwc pyÈ krFgf.

s: ijAUx vflf sfihb afpxI iek ilKq ivwc (bRhmigafnI kOx hY)ies qrF dsdy hn. (gurU arjn dyv jI bRhmigafnI dy lCx dsdy dsdy ieh spÈt kr idMdy hn ik ikqy iksy mnuK nUM BulyKf hI nf pY jfvy, qy ieh vI ilK idMdy hn ik bRhmigafnI isrP qy isrP pRmfqmf hI ho skdf hY.) afpxy ies ivcfr qy gurbfxI dI mohr ies qrHF lfAudy hn. (bRhmigafnI kf drsu vzBfgI pfeIaY ÒbRhmigafnI kAu bil bil jfeIaY ÒbRhmigafnI kAu Kojih mhysr Ònfnk bRhmigafnI afip prmysur) agy gurbfxI dy shI arQF df iek hor nmUnf ies qrF pyÈ krdy hn (aink bMDn mfieaf , Brmq Brmfieaf gux iniD nhI gfieaf Ò mn ibKY hI mih luJI hy Ò jf kAu ry ikrpf krY jIvq soeI mrY sfD sMig mfieaf qrYÒ nfnk so jnu dir hir isJI hy) arQ ies qrF krdy hn-ies slok ivwc gurU sfihb dsdy hn ik jo mnuK afpxy afp nUM ijAudy jIa mfr lYNdf hY BfeI AhI mnuK ies duinaf dy kfr ivhfr krdf hoieaf vI mfieaf ivwc Kcq nhIN huMdf.

hux pfTk jn afp ihsfb lf lYx ik jy kr koeI ivafkqI ienHF slokF dy shI arQ krygf jF kih lA ik iPlfsÌr sfihb mqfibk nhIN krygf qF XkInn Êlq hoxgy ikAuik iPlfsÌr kdy glq nhIN hoieaf krdy.

pyÈ hY ijAUx vflf jI dI ilKq df iek hor nmUnf :-(gurU gRMQ sfihb ivwco hor bhuq sfry pRmfx iml skdy hn ik rb jI nUM pRmfqmf nUM jF koeI hor nfm jo rb jI leI vriqaf igaf hY, aMdr hI hn qF imlx iks nUM jfxf hY. jy imlx hI nhIN jfxf qF rsqy dI kI jrUrq? iPr gurbfxI sfnUM smJfAudI kI hY? gurbfxI sfnUM rb jI dI hoNd nUM mihsUs krnf sKfAudI hY. rb jI qoN asIN srIrk qOr qy ivCVy nhIN sgoN(ikriq krm ky vICVy kir ikrpf mylhu rfm) rb jI qoN asIN isrP qy isrP afpxy kMmF nUM krmF krky ivCVy hF.)

ijAUx vflf jI dI Auupr ilKy pihry dI iPlfsÌI jo ik sfrI hI afpf ivroDI hY myrI smJ ivwc qF nhIN afeI hF jy pfTkF ivwco iksy nUM af jfvy qF mYNnUM vI dsxf jI. mYN hr hflq DMnvfdI hovFgf jI .vYsy ies dy sbMD ivwc siqgurU jI dy Purmfn bhuq hI suMdr, suKfly aqy smJx gocry hn. BeI prfpiq mfnuK dyhurIaf Ò goibMd imlx kI ieh qyrI brIafÒ avir kfj qyrY ikqY n kfm Ò imlu sfDsMgiq Bju kyvl nfm ÒpMnf 12 Ò iDRgu iDRgu Kfieaf iDRgu iDRgu soieaf iDRgu iDRgu kfpV aMig cVfieafÒ iDRgu srIru kutMb sihq isAu ijqu huix Ksmu n pfieaf Ò pAuVI CuVkI iPir hfiQ n afvY aihlf jnmu gvfieafÒpMnf 796Ò iPrq iPrq bhuqy jug hfirA mfns dyh lhI Ò nfnk khq imln kI brIaf ismrq khf nhI Ò pMnf 631 Ò sBnf kf shu eyku hY sd hI rhY hjUir Ò nfnk hukmu n mMneI qf Gr hI aMdir dUirÒpMnf 510 Ò koeI bolY inrvf koeI bolY dUir Ò jl kI mfCulI crY KjUir Ò kFie ry bkbfdu lfieA Ò ijin hir pfieA iqnih CpfieA ÒrhfAu Ò pMizqu hoie kY bydu bKfnY Ò mUrKu nfmdyAu rfmih jfnY Ò pMnf 718 Ò mnmuKu aMhkfrI mhlu n jfxY iKnu afgY iKnu pICY Ò sdf bulfeIaY mhil n afvY ikAu kir drgh sIJY Ò siqgur kf mhlu ivrlf jfxY sdf rhY kr joiV Ò afpxI ikRpf kry hir myrf nfnk ley bhoiV Ò pMnf 314 Ò jy kr ienHF pMgqIaF nUM asIN QoVf ijhf vI iDafn nfl pVHIey qF mYNnUM nhIN lgdf ik ieh arQF dIaF muQfË hn . gl pUrI qrHF spÈt hY ik ieho hI jnm hY jdoN asIN imlfp kr skdy hF. scy pfqÈfh jI sfnUM lfnqF vI pfAuNdy hn ik jy kr qusIN hux vI imlfp nf kr sky qF quhfzf ijAUxf iDRg hY. agy siqgur jI bKiÈÈ krdy hn ik mflk hY qF aMdr pr qyrf hMkfr sB qoN vzf pVdf hY ijs krky imlfp nhIN huMdf. KudI imtI qb suK Bey mn qn Bey afrog Ò nfnk idRstI afieaf Ausqiq krnY jogu Ò ies KudI nUM imtf, KudI imtx nfl mn qy qn arog hoxgy qF iPr ikqy Auh ndrIN pYxf. ijs dI Ausqq , ijs dI isPq slfh leI ieh jnm imilaf. ijAUx vflf sfihb jI jgq gurU siqgurU ÈIR gurU gRMQ sfihb jI sfnUM pUrn imlfp dI gwl smJfAudy hn nF ik akfl purK dI hoNd nUM mihsUs krn dI . ijs qrHF qusIN ds rhy ho. ieh gwl vKrI hY ik asIN ies nUM suxIey jF nF suxIey. iek hor ivcfr nfl ijAUx vflf jI sfnUM smJfAudy hn ik (iksy iek lÌË jF iksy iek slok df rtn nfm jpxf nhIN . aysY nfm jpx nUM gurbfxI ivwc QF QF KMzn kIqf hoieaf hY. qy asl nfm jpxf kI hY ). idRstFq dy ky ies qrHF smJfAudy hn:-(kfhy eyk ibnf icqu lfeIaY AUTq bYTq sovq jfgq sdf sdf hir iDafeIaYÒ iesy ivÈy qy dUjf idRstFq :-afsf mhlf 5Ò AUTq bYTq sovq iDafeIaY Ò mfrig clq hry hir gfeIaYÒ sRvn sunIjY aRimq kQfÒ jfsu sunI min hoie anMdf dUK rog mn sgly lQfÒ pRmfqmf dI hoNd nUM hr vkq Xfd rKky afpxf kMm kfr krI jfxf, suikRq-scI ikrq krI jfxI, loVvMdf dI mdd leI iqafr rihxf pRmfqmf df ismrn hY. Auh kMm ijs df smfj nUM koeI Pfiedf nf hovy ismrn nhIN ho skdf.) sdIaF qoN mnwuKqf nfl DRoh kmfAux vfilaF ny qF pihlF hI isK ieqhfs ivwc bhuq kuJ bdl idqf hoieaf hY lgdY ik rihMdI ksr hux ieh nvyN ivdvfn pUrI kr dyxgy. iek Èbd aqy ismrn bfry siqgurU jI ny bhuq sfrI bfxI dI rcnf kIqI hoeI hY. afA afpF iek CotI ijhI Jfq mfrIey ik siqgurU jI sfnUM ies bfbq kI aqy ikvyN smJfAudy hn.siqgurU jI dy Purmfn:- mn mih joiq joiq mih mnUaf pMc imly gur BfeI Ò nfnk iqn kY sd bilhfrI ijn ( eyk sbid)ilv lfeI ÒpMnf 879Ò (sbdu) n jfxih sy aMny boly sy ikqu afey sMsfrf Ò hir rsu n pfieaf ibrQf jnmu gvfieaf jMmih vfro vfrf Ò pMnf 601 Ò byd kqyb isimRiq siB sfsq ien piVaf mukiq n hoeI Ò (eyk aKru) jo gurmuiK jfpY iqs kI inrml soeI ÒpMnf 787 Ò sfjn sMq krhu iehu kfmu Ò afn iqafig jphu hir nfmu Ò ismir ismir ismir suK pfvhu Ò afip jphu avrh nfmu jpfvhu Ò pMnf 290Ò

mYN bfkI sfrf kuJ pfTkF qy Cz ky isrP s: sfihb jI dy afKrI ivcfr qy itpxI krdf hF ik ijAUx vflf sfihb muqfibk iek lÌË (vfihgurU) jF iksy iek slok (gurmMqr)df rtn krnf nfm jpxf nhIN ho skdf . jy kr TIk hY qF isK jgq nUM ienHF koloN nfm jpx df ZMg qrIkf isK lYxf cfhIdf hY. pqf nhIN iPr eyzf mhfn ivdvfn kdoN imly qy ieh vI ho skdY ik imly hI nF. Kfs qOr qy aRimq CkfAux vfly gurmuKF nUM qF hr hflq klfsF lf lYxIaF cfhIdIaF hn.

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Remembrance March & Freedom Rally

Sunday 4 June 2006

Time for the international community to stand up against Indian injustice

Programme:

- Gather for mini-rally at Hyde Park from 11:30am

- March through central London to Trafalgar Square between 1:30-2:30pm

- Massive rally in Trafalgar Square 2:30-4:30pm

Contact you local Gurdwara for transportation

For further information contact sikhfederationuk

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