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BfeI mrdfnf jI aqy BfeI bflf jI ivcoN kOx gurU nfnk sfihb df sfQI sI ? kI BfeI mrdfnf jI bfxIkfr sn?

zf: mihMdr kOr igl, ipRMsIpl mfqf suMdrI kflj, nfl ivsLysL mulfkfq!!!

puCy gey suafl AunHF dI Ausy ikqfb, gurU arjn dyv jIvn qy bfxI, ivcoN hn ijs krky AunHF ny pI[aYc[ zI[ dI izgrI pRfpq kIqI sI.

suafl: zf: sfihbf torFto dy aKbfrF ivcoN qy quhfzI ikqfb, "gurU arjn dyv jIvn qy bfxI", qoN pqf cwilaf hY ik qusIN gurU nfnk sfihb nfl BfeI mrdfny qy BfeI bfly dI hoNd nUM svIkfr krdy ho.pr jdoN mYN BfeI gurdfs dI pihlI vfr dI 35 vIN pAuVI vwl njLr mfrdf hF " iek bfbf akfl rUp dUjf rbfbI mrdfnf" qy igafrvIN vfr dI 18vIN pAuVI, "bflf iksnf iJMgrix pMizq rfie sBf sIgfrf" vI iehI afKdI hY ik BfeI bflf gurU nfnk sfihb df iswK nhI sI blik gurU arjn dyv jI df iswK sI. quhzI jfxkfrI df kI sroq hY ik BfeI bflf gurU arjn dyv jI df iswK nhI blik gurU nfnk sfihb df iswK sI?

AuWqr: qusIN bhuq sfrIaF qsvIrF dyKIaF hoxgIaF, gurU nfnk sfihb dy syhlI topI pfeI hY.iek pfsy rbfbI mrdfnf bYTf hY qy dUjy pfsy BfeI bflf cOr kr irhf hY. ijhVI purfqn jnm sfKI hY. Aus ivc ieh gwl bVy spwsLt rUp ivc afAuNdI hY ik BfeI bfly ny ieh jnm sfKI afpxI ismrqI qoN ilKfeI. ikAuNik gurU nfnk sfihb nfl kooeI sfKIkfr qF irhf hI nhI. afKr gurU nfnk sfihb nfl ijhVIaF GtnfvF vfpr rhIaF sn AunHF nUM rIkfrz kOx kr irhf sI. soco jLrf, AunHF nfl ilKfrI qF koeI hY nhI sI. gurU aMgd dyv jI ny BfeI bfly nUM ikhf ik BfeI qusIN gurU nfnk dyv jI nfl lMbf arsf ivcry ho.jo vI quhfzI XfdfsLq ivc hY, sfnUM gurU nfnk sfihb bfry dwso. ies krky BfeI bfly ny afpxI ismrqI qoN ieh purfqn jnm sfKI ilKvfeI.

ijqnI dyr sfzy kol gurU nfnk sfihb df awgy iliKaf slok hfjLr hY AuqnI dyr asIN quhfzI gurU nfnk sfihb dy isr qy syhlI topI puafAux vflI gwl vI nhI svIkfr kr skdy. zf: sfihbf Auh slok ieMJ hY:

kulhF dyNdy bfvly lYNdy vzy inlj] cUhf Kz n mfveI iqkil bMnyH Cj] m:1, pMnf 1281] ies slok ivc syhlI topI puvfAux vfilaF gurUaF qy cyilaF nUM mUrK qy byiejLqy ikhf igaf hY qy ijvyN jy cUhy dy lwk nfl Cwj bMn idwqf jfvy qF Auh afpxI Kwz ivc vI nhI vV skdf iehI hflq AunHF gurUaF qy cyilaF dI hY jo gurU cyly nUM gwdI dI rsm adf krn vyly syhlI topI puaf ky ieh afKdf hY ik hux qUM gurU bx igaf hYN qy lokF df awgy suDfr kr skdf hYN. gurU nfnk sfihb df ieh afpxf slok iehI jLfhr krdf hY ik gurU nfnk sfihb syhlI topI nUM psMd nhI krdy. iPr ieh ho hI nhI skdf ik gurU nfnk sfihb ny afpxy amlI jIvn ivc kdI vI syhlI topI pfeI hovy.

suafl: zf:sfihb mYN quhnUM suafl kIqf sI ik ijhVy gurU sfihbfn dy msLhUr iswK hoey hn, jdoN BfeI gurdfs afpxIaF vfrF ivc AunHF df vrnx krdy hn qF BfeI bfly df nfm gurU nfnk sfihb dy iswKF ivc vrnx nhI krdy, gurU aMgd dyv jI dy iswKF ivc vI BfeI bfly df nfm nhI afAuNdf, iesy qrHF qIsrI qy cOQI pfqsLfhI dy iswKF ivc BfeI bfly df nfm nhI afAuNdf, BfeI bfly df nfm pMjvI pfqsLfhI dy iswKF ivc jf ky afAuNdf hY.ijhVI purfqn jnm sfKI hY AusnUM ilKx vfly koeI hor hn. nfm BfeI bfly df pfieaf hY. purfqn jnm sfKI dI ilKx sLYlI qoN ieh iswD huMdf hY ik ieh jnm sfKI gurU aMgd dyv jI dy smyN nhI ilKI geI. purfqn jnm sfKI nUM ilKx vfly hMdflIey hn pr ies jnm sfKI nUM pRiswDqf/ msLhUrI idvfAux leI ilKfrI afpxf nfm lko ky ieh jnm sfKI BfeI bfly dy mUMhoN kZvfAuNdf hY, ilKx vflf pYVf moKf dwisaf hY qy suJfE gurU aMgd dyv jI df hY.jdoN ik BfeI gurdfs jI BfeI bfly qy pYVy moKy df nfm, afpxI igafrvI vfr dI 18 vIN pAuVI ivc pMjvI pfqsLfhI dy iswKF ivc, ilKdy hn. ieh iks qrHF ho skdf hY ik BfeI bflf gurU nfnk sfihb df iswK hovy jF gurU aMgd dyv jI df iswK hovy qy BfeI gurdfs AunHF df nfm ilKxf Buwl jfx?

dusrI gwl ieh ik BfeI kfhn isMG nfBf mhfn kosL dy pMnf 715 qy inrMjnIey dy isrlyK hyT ilKdy hn ik hMdfl df puqr ibDIcMd kukrmI sI. Aus ny gurU nfnk dyv jI dI jnm sfKI bhuq asLuwD kr idwqI aqy mn mMnIaf gwlF ilKky afpxy aOgxF nUM iswKI df inXm sfbq krn df Xqn kIqf. iehI hI nhI keI ieqhfskfr qF BfeI gurdfs jI dI igafrvIN vfr dI 18 vIN pAuVI dI Et lY ky iehI afKdy hn ik ieh purqfn jnm sfKI sfrI dI sfrI hI ies ibDI cMd hMdflIey dI hI ilKI hoeI hY. gurU nfnk sfihb df mwky mdIny dI AudfsI qy bMbeI vloN jfxf Aukf hI glq hY qy ies jnm sfKI ivc sfKIkfr gurU bfby nUM iewk hvfeI jhfjL ivc Auzf ky lY ky jf irhf hY.jdoN hI BfeI mrdfnf jI ieh afKdy hn ik gurU jI ieh cfr gubMd qF mwky vfly hI lwgdy hn qF gurU nfnk sfihb afpxy jhfjL df lYNizMg gyar pfAuNdy hn qy DrqI qy lYNz kr jFdy hn jo ik mMnx Xog nhI.awgy jf ky qF ies sfKI ivc krqy ny bhuq QFeI gurU nfnk sfihb dI byadbI vI kIqI hY pr asIN lok idmfgI rosLnI ivc ies sLfKI nUM pVHnf hI nhI cfhuMdy.

AuWuqr: quhzf sLMkf qy bjf ho skdf hY.pr keI vfrI koeI qwQ rIkfrz krn vloN rih jFdf hY. jy mYN quhzy koloN iek suafl puCF. pMcm pfqsLfh dI sLhIdI hoeI. dsm pfqsLfh, "qyg bhdfr sI ikRaf krI n iknhUM afn" qF kihMdy ny lykn pMcm pfqsLfh df ikDry vI ijkr nhI krdy. hux qusIN dwso ik dsm ipqf nUM pMcm pfqsLfh dI sLhIdI df pqf nhI sI? iksy vI lyKk qoN asIN ieh mMg nhI kr skdy ik Ausny ieh gwl ikAuN ilKI hY qy ieh gwl ikAUN nhI ilKI?

suafl: zf: sfihb! myry svfl df quhfzf ieh AuWqr ZukvF nhI. gurU goibMd isMG jI df dsm gRMQ ( jo gurU goibMd isMG jI df iliKaf hI nhI ) ivc iksy sLhIdI df vrnx krnf qy iksy df nf vrnx krnf iek vwKrf ivsLf hY. ieh do sLhIdIaF vwKry vwKry smyN hoeIaF hn qy dUjy pfsy do vwKry vwKry iswK jo vwK vwK smyN hoey hn AunHF nUM iek gurU dy iswK iswD krnf iek vwKrf ivsLf hY. mYN iek vfr iPr quhfnUM EhI suafl pfAuNdf hF ik gurU nfnk sfihb nfl 30-35 sfl AudfsIaF krn vfly do iswKF ivcoN BfeI gurdfs iek iswK df nfm qF gurU nfnk sfihb dy iswKF ivc ilKx qy iek df nfm pMjvy pfqsLfh dy iswKF ivc ilKx, ieh nhI ho skdf ik BfeI gurdfs jI Buwl gey hox jF vrnx nf krnf cfhuMdy hox. ieh iek Zucwr hY. BfeI gurdfs dI igafrvIN vfr sfzy kol iek bhuq vwzf ieqhfisk sbUq hY ik BfeI bflf gurU nfnk sfihb dy nfl nhI hoieaf. hF jy iekwly BfeI bfly df nfm pMjvIN pfqfsLfhI dy iswKF ivc afAuNdf qF ieh vI ho skdf sI ik ieh BfeI bflf koeI hor hY pr jdoN ilKx qy ilKfAux vfly dono iswK, BfeI bflf qy pYVf moKf df nfm igafrvIN vfr dI 18vIN pAuVI ivc BfeI gurdfs jI vrnx krdy hn qF mYN XkIn nfl kih skdf hF ik BfeI bflf gurU nfnk sfihb nfl nhI hoey sgoN Auh pMcm pfqsLfh gurU arjn dy isK sn ieh aslIawq hY.. bfkI ijhVf qusIN huxy ikhf hY ik dsm ipqf gurU qyg bhfdr sfihb dI sLhIdI df ijkr qF bicqR nftk ivc krdy hn pr pMjvy pfqsLfh dI sLhIdI df ijkr nhI krdy.iehI qF nukqf hY ik ieh dsm gRMQ dsm ipqf gurU goibMd isMG jI df iliKaf hI nhI. zf: sfihbf, jo gRMQ kfm AuksfAU hovy, nisLaF dI vrqoN dI pUrI Kul idMdf hovy, aOrqF dI inMidaf krdf hovy, aOrqF nUM pYdf krky rwb jI nUM vI prysLfn idKvy, aOrqF dy cilqR vI rwb jI dI smJ qoN bfhr hox afid, gurU goibMd isMG jI df iliKaf gRMQ nhI ho skdf. ieh swB AunHF dy nfm nfl miVaf jf irhf hY. dsm gRMQ bfry afpF iPr kdI gwl krFgy.

AuWqr: ivcfrF dy vwKryvyN dI qF mYN kdrdfn hF. jy quhfzI iehI rfey hovy ik gurU nfnk sfihb nfl koeI BfeI bflf nhI hoieaf qF mYnUM iehdy ivc koeI ieqrfj nhI. lyikn pRMprf dy muqfbk hux qk mYN jo suxdI clI afeI hF Aus muqfbk qF iehI sI.

suafl: zf: sfihb! quhfzy muqfbk qF hrImMdr sfihb dy aMdr vVn vfly drvfjy dy aYn Aupr iek qsvIr lwgI hoeI hY. ijs ivc BfeI bflf gurU nfnk sfihb nUM cOr kr rhy hn qy BfeI mrdfnf jI vI nfl bYTy hn. sfKIkfr qy kQfkfr vI iehI kihMdy af rhy hn ik hrImMdr sfihb dy drvfjy qy iek Poto lwgI hoeI hY. hrImMdr sfihb abdflI vyly bfrUd nfl iek vfrI Zfihaf igaf hY.Aus qoN bfad iesnUM iks ny bxfieaf ikvy bxfieaf? mhFrfjf rxjIq isMG ijhVf awKr boD qoN iblkul korf sI jy ikqy QoVf bhuq piVaf iliKaf huMdf qF iswK rfj df Kfqmf nf-mumikn sI. mhFrfjy nUM pMzqF ny kI isKfieaf.ieh qsvIr mhFrfjf rxjIq isMG vyly iksy icqrkfr qoN bxvfeI qy sony dI syvf dy smyN nflo nfl hrImMdr sfihb dy drvfjy qy tMg idwqI geI.quhzf iehdy bfry kI iKafl hY?

AuWqr: mYN quhnUM pihly vI kih cuwkI hF ik sfnUM ivcfrF dy vwKryvyN df hwk hY qy asIN ies vwKryvyN nUM bVI suihrdqf nfl rwKIey vI. jy quhnUM ies gwl ivc ijLafdf qswlI hY ik mhFrfjf rxjIq isMG ny ieh icqr bfad ivc lgvfieaf hY qF myrI ies bfry koeI dUsrI rfey nhI. ho skdf hY ik quhzI gwl ijLafdf TIk hovy qy myrI gwl nf TIk hovy.

myhrbfnI zf: sfihbf.ieh svfl Aus pusqk ivcoN hY ijs pusqk nUM ilK ky qusIN pI[ aYc[ zI[ dI izgrI leI hY. BfeI bfly dI hoNd nUM qusIN suxI suxfeI khfxI dy afDfr TIk mMn ilaf jdoN ik scfeI iesdy iblkul Ault hY. qusIN afpxy jvfb ivc koeI vI Tos sbUq nhI idwqf ijsdy afDfr qy asIN ieh mMn lYNdy ky quhzI Koj qswlI bKsL hY.mYnUM quhzy jYsI skflr koloN ies qrHF dy AuWqr dI AumId nhI sI.

svfl: zf: sfihbf! qusIN AuWpr ilKI afpxI pusqk ivc bfxIkfrF dy nfm ilKdy smyN BfeI mrdfny nUM vI bfxIkfrF ivc sLfml krdy ho.gurU gRMQ sfihb dy pMnf 553 qy iqMn slok gurU nfnk sfihb dy BfeI mrdfny nUM sboDn krky ilKy hoey hn ijnHF df isrlyK ies qrHF cwldf hY, "slok mrdfnf pihlf".

ipRsIpl sqbIr isMG jI vI afpxI pusqk "sO svfl" ivc iehI mMndy hn ik mrdfnf bfxIkfr hY pr dlIl koeI nhI idMdy ik Auh BfeI mrdfny nUM bfxIkfr ikAUN mMndy hn. slok dy aKIr ivc ijQy kvI afpxf nfm ilKdf hY AuQy ienHF iqMnF hI slokF ivc gurU nfnk sfihb afpxf nfm ilKdy hn. jy ieh bfxI BfeI mrdfny dI hY qF gurU nfnk sfihb sLfier dy rUp ivc afpxf nfm kdI nhI ilKxgy? qusIN ieh ikvyN iswD krogy ik ieh iqno slok BfeI mrdfny dy hn?

AuWqr: ijQoN qusIN ieh gwl pVH rhy ho nf ieQy kuwJ iswDF dI bfxI vI hovygI. jdoN gurU nfnk sfihb BfeI mrdfny dI bfxI df iKafl, iKafl BfeI mrdfny df hY ilKq gurU nfnk sfihb df hY. ikAUNik gurU nfnk sfihb ieh iswD krnf cfhuMdy hn ik BfeI mrdfnf vI bfxI kfrF dI jmfq ivc af skdf hY. lyikn Auh bfxI ikvyN Aucfr irhf hY gurU sfihb Aus ivc iksy qrHF df sMdyh nhI rihx dyxf cfhuMdy ies krky ieh iKafl BfeI mrdfny df hY qy ilKq gurU sfihb dI afpxI hY. iesy qrHF dI gwl gurU amrdfs jI ny kIqI hY bfbf PrId dy slokF ivc:

PrIdf rqI rqu n inklY jy qnu cIrY koie] jo qn rqy rb isAu iqn qin loBu rqu n hoie ]51]

m :3] iehu qnu sBo rqu hY rqu ibnu qMnu n hoie] jo sh rqy afpxy iqqu qin loBu rqu n hoie] BY pieaf qny KIxu hoie loBu rqu ivchu jfie] ijAu bYsMqir Dfqu suDu hoie loBu rqu ivchu jfie]

ijQy sLMkf af skdf hY AuQy gurU sfihbfn ny ies qrHF dI gl kIqI hY.

svfl: ivcoN hI zf:mihMdr kOr igwl nUM tok ky mYnUM afpxf svfl iPr qoN duhrfAuxf ipaf ikAUNik BfeI mrdfny dy slokF vflI qy bfbf PrId jI dy slokF vflI siQqI iblkul vwKrI vwKrI hY.ijQy qIsrI pfqsLfhI ny bfby PrId jI dy slokF dy nfl afpxf slok iliKaf hY AuQy qIsrI pfqsLfhI ny mhlf qIjf iliKaf hoieaf hY. iek hor vI Audfhrx gurU gRMQ sfihb ivcoN imldI hY ik jy iksy gur ivakqI ny iksy hor Bgq jF iksy ivakqI nfl apxy do cfr awKr Ausdy slok dy ivc hI ilKy hn qF isrlyK ieMJ iliKaf imldf hY:

gAuVI kbIr jI kI nfil rlfie iliKaf mhlf 5] pMnf 326] qy ies qrHF dIaF hor vI AudfhrxF guru gRMQ sfihb ivc mOjLUd hn] jdoN mYN ies qrHF dIaf AudfhrxF dyKdf hF qF mYnUM gurU sfihbfn " hku prfieaf nfnkf Ausu sUar Ausu gfie] pMnf 141 m:1] qy hr vkq pihrf idMdy njLr afAUNdy hn.

ieQy iPr myrf EhI svfl ik slok mrdfnf pihlf. pihlI gwl qF ieh hY ik jy mrdfnf pihlf, dUjf, qIjf, cOQf huMdf qF ieQoN ieh pqf cwlxf sI ik mrdfnf ikhVf? jdoN mrdfnf hor koeI hoieaf hI nhI qF slok mrdfnf pihlf df mqlb koeI hor hY.ijQy ijQy ieh iqno slok Kqm huMdy hn AuQy krqy kvI ny afpxf nfm nfnk iliKaf hY. quhfzI afpxI dlIl nUM "ik ieh iKafl mrdfny df hY qy pwkI sLYlI gurU nfnk sfihb dI hY" ikvy iswD krogy?

AuWqr: ieQy, slok mrdfnf pihlf df mqlb hY ik mUl lyKk ijhVf hY Auh mrdfnf hY, ikAUNik Aus dI sLYlI bVI pwkI nhI sI ies krky pwkI sLYlI dy ivc, gurbfxI dI sLYlI ivc gurU nfnk sfihb ny Aucfrx kIqf hY. ies krky gurU nfnk sfihb ny mrdfny df nfm nfl iliKaf hY ikAUNik ivcfr mrdfny df hY.

myry svfl df ieh sMqoKjnk AuWqr nhI ikAUNik qusIN ikhVf kol bYTy sI ik ieh ivcfr mrdfny idwqf sI qy pwkI sLYlI ivc gurU nfnk sfihb ny iliKaf sI. ijhVI asl gwl hY Aus vwl qusIN qvwjLo nhI idMdy pey. asl ivc ieh TIk hY ik BfeI mrdfny nUM sMboDn krky gurU nfnk sfihb bfxI Aucfrx kr rhy hn. ieQoN iek hor gwl iDan gocrI huMdI hY ik ijs qrHF dI kQf khfxIaF asIN BfeI mrdfny pRqI GVIaF hoeIaF hn Auh vI afpxy afp glq iswD ho jFdIaF hn ik BfeI mrdfnf axpVH sI. axpVH qoN myrf mqlb bysmJ hY. awKrI igafn nf hoxf iek hor gwl hY pr BfeI mrdfnf smJdfr mnuwK sI iesy krky qF gurU nfnk sfihb afpxy vIcfr ieqnI zUGI sLYlI ivc Aucfrdy hn nhI qF gurU sfihb mrdfny nUM smJfAUx vfsqy sOKy lPjL vI vrq skdy sn. dUjI gwl ieh ik gurU nfnk sfihb afpxy nfl iksy bysmJ ivakqI nUM 30-35 sfl rwK hI nhI skdy.

1[ slok mrdfnf1]kil klvflI kfmu mdu mnUaf pIvxhfru] kRoD ktorI moih BrI pIlfbf ahMkfr] mjls kUVy lb kI pI pI hoie Kuafru] krxI lfhix squ guV scu srf kir sfru] gux mMzy kir sIlu iGAu srmu mfsu afhfru] gurmuiK pfeIaY nfnkf KfDY jfih ibkfr]pMnf 533]

2[ kAux qrfjI kvxu qulf qyrf kvxu srfPu bulfvf] kAuxu gurU kY pih dIiKaf lyvf kY pih mulu krfvf]

3[ guVu kir igafnu iDafnu kir DfvY kir krxI ksu pfeIaY] BfTI Bvnu pRym kf pocf iequ ris aimAu cuafeIaY]

4[kr hirht mfl itMz provhu iqsu BIqir mnu jovhu] aMimRqu isMchu Brhu ikafry qAu mflI ky hovhu]

Aupr ilKy cfrF slokF nUM asIN jdoN iDafn nfl vyKFgy qF spwsLt jLfhr huMdf hY ik ieh cfro slok iewk hI ilKfrI dy hn. jo ieqhfskfr ieh afK rhy hn ik 553 pMny vfly iqny slok mrdfny dy hn Auh gurU nfnk sfihb nfl DoKf kr rhy hn. AuprlI Audfhrx, iek do iqMn cfr nMbr vfly slok, ieh iswD krdI hY ik ilKfrI gurU nfnk sfihb hI hn qy AunHF mrdfny nUM sMboDn krn leI isrlyK ivc nfm mrdfnf iliKaf hY.gurU nfnk sfihb nUM ieh iswD krn dI kI jLrUrq peI sI ik mrdfnf vI bfxIkfrF ivc sLfml ho skdf hY.ieQoN ieh gwl vI afpxy afp iswD ho geI ik BfeI mrdfnf gurU nfnk sfihb nfl sn aqy gurU nfnk sfihb dy pwky imqr/ iswK sn.

gurU pMQ df syvk,

gurcrn isMG (ijAUx vflf) brYNptn




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