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(06/05/08)
amrIk isMG DOl

Dear Editors,

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Can you please print the views of Prof: Harinder Singh Mehoob regarding the controversial issue put forward first time by Karam Singh, in the beginning of the 20th century under the high sounding name of scientific research.

I do not hold any particular views strongly. It is the Khalsa Punth who should decide for my sort of ordinary, insignificant and unimportant people what is the most correct date. The rest is with your wise, sincere and learned readers and researchers.

Yours sincerely

Amrik Singh Dhaul

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Guru Nanak’s Birthday

[ Note: Someone asked my opinion of his book and he wanted me to comment on the controversial issue of Guru Nanak’s birthday whether or not it falls on one of the two dates people believe. I told very clearly that I do not hold any particular bias for one of the two options. But, what information is available for Kattak from the saintly Sikh philosopher and poet, Prof: Harinder Singh Mehboob, who is currently writing an Epic on the lives of the Sikh Gurus, is presented here for the Sikh Marg readers and writers. Follows below an account of what I had written to my friend.]

- Amrik Singh Dhaul

Following the “so called historian” (akhauti it-haaskaar) Karam Singh’s line of thought, you said: “…. but, truly Guru Nanak’s birth date is in Vaisakh, and not in Kattak”. To emphasise your point you sought to advise the reader to read the book: “Kattak Ke Vaisakh?” which is full of judgemental naïve and ill conceived material seen as worthy “research”. It is nearly 100 years old and, more so, unwisely written exponent with a bias and bigotry.

You have badly failed to critically analyse by not building “for and against” arguments as a salient part of scholarly reasoning, which could have been conducive to the desired outcome. If your hypothesis was to prove Vaisakh as the legitimate birth date then your “desired outcome” could have been a natural conclusion resulting from your discussion following your healthy reasoning. Absence of such a dramatic progression of discussion in your exponent further failed to successfully convince the prudent reader. While writing such rational essays in future you should put yourself in sharp contrast with, and follow the example of, Prof. Harinder Singh Mehboob who has quite rightly built healthy reasoning in his book: Sehje Racheo Khalsa. Moreover, Prof. Mehboob’s prudent, detailed critical and analytical study or criticism of Sikh literature found in Punjabi, English, Hindi, and Persian languages meets the criteria for such an in-depth analytical evaluation and thorough study.

However, Prof. Mehboob writes on page 1 of his world famous book: Sehje Raheo Khalsa, “To bestow the biggest ever gift on humanity, Guru Nanak was born in Kattak in the Rai Bhoie Dee Talwandi …” ( Mehboob 1988:1, 1106 - 1110). Further, in his recently published books “Ilahi Nadar Dey Paindey”, Volume 1 (Mehboob 1999: 25-7, 88), he provides even more supporting argumentative scholarly reasoning. On page 88 he sings in poetry as:

Sammat sadi solvin Kattak

Dhhoond ke chan jagaaie

sMmq sdI solHvIN kWqk

ZUMz ky cMn jgfey

Raavi naal Jhnaa dey supney

Sandal baar tey aayey

rfvI nfl JnF dy supny

sFdl bfr qy afey

Similarly, really in-depth comments can be read in his more recent thesis in Punjabi poetry: “Ilahi Nadar Dey Painday”, Volume 4; (Mehboob 2007:35-37) relating to the (“akhauti it-haskaar”) “so-called historian” Karam Singh and others.

You also wrote that it was Bhai Vir Singh, the leading Traditionalist (Taksali) who led the way to promulgate for believing Kattak as the birth month of Guru Nanak, is an absolutely wrong fact. Please check your facts again. If it had been so, the famous writer of repute Isher Singh Nara would not have harshly criticised Bhai Vir Singh in his exponent: “Vaisakh Naheen, Kattak” on pages 125, 150 and 157 (Nara 1970:125,150,157). Prof. Mehboob also verifies this assertion (Mehboob 1999:31).

Further, Dr. Trilochan Singh, a gur-bhai (both present in the Khalsa initiation sacrament of self) of the famous 20^th century freedom fighter Bhai Randhir Singh, has mentioned names of 22 learned writers in his book: “Jiwan Chritter of Guru Nanak Dev”. All of them have unequivocally evidenced Kattak dee Puran-mashi as the legitimate and established birth date of Guru Nanak. So is the stance of the SGPC as is found in their seven Gur-pra-Naalian. Moreover, the Kabitt No. 345 of Bhai Gurdas also corroborates this fact.

Secondly, the issue of Bhai Balla as a concrete historic figure has been upheld in “Vaisakh Naheen, Kattak” by the wise author, Isher Singh Nara (1970), who has rendered an in-depth analytical study in this book (Nara 1970:189-259).

Please use this information for enhancing your repertoire of knowledge rather than seeing them my views. They are NOT my views, however.

Amrik Singh Dhaul

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(06/05/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

krm isMG ihstorIan dI ikqfb, ‘kqk ik vYsfK’ dy ivroD ivwc sR[ igafnI eIÈr isMG nfhrf ny afpxI ikqfb, ‘vYsfK nhIN kqk’ akqUbr 1970 ivwc CfpI. pRkfÈk, ipRtr qy ilKfrI vI Auh afp hI sI. ies ikqfb ivwc ihstrI vflI koeI gwl nhIN qy sR[ krm isMG ihstorIafn ny iesdf jvfb ies krky nhIN idwqf ikAuNik Auh 10 sqMbr 1930 nUM akfl clfxf kr gey sn.

ies ivcfrDfrf nUM kwtx vfsqy iewk hor vDIaf nukqf Xfd afieaf. Auh ieh hY ik imhrbfn, jo gurU arjn pfqÈfh dy mukfbly qy mhly CyvyN hyT ÈrIk bx ky bfxI Aucfrn kr irhf sI, ny vI sfKIaF ivclI vYsfK vflI qfrIK nUM nhIN CyiVaf. jy quhfzf mn kry qF ies gwl df jvfb jrUr dyxf ik igafnI eIÈr isMG nfhrf iks kdr dy guriswK sn. sR[ mwKx isMG jI horF TIk hI iliKaf hY ik mYN AunHF dI ieh ikqfb ies krky nhIN pVI ikAuNik igafnI eIÈr isMG jI mYnUM iksy kdr guriswK ivdvfn nhIN lwgy. jvfb dI AuzIk ivc.

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

(not:- ieh icwTI zf: idlgIr nUM sMboDn kr ky ilKI sI. ikAuNik Auh hux afpxy afp nUM ‘isWK mfrg’ qoN vwK kr cuwky hn ies leI asIN ies nUM aYizt kr ky pf rhy hF aqy keI gwlF ivcoN kwt idWqIaf hn-sMpfdk)

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(04/05/08)
bIrjoq isMG

United we Stand Divided we Fall

Having interest in Sikh Affairs, there is no hide in saying ‘Sikh Marg’ is one of Sikh Website being run updating Articles on Guru Granth Sahib Bani. Every writer of ‘Sikh Marg’ consider Guru Granth Sahib as ‘Sarab Kala Samrath’. Respect for ‘Shabad Guru’ as enshrined in Guru Granth Sahib, attributed as ‘Satguru of Sikhs’ as Guruship passed by tenth Nanak in 1708, Sikh was ordered to take Decision of Life, Guidance on every aspect from Guru Granth Sahib.

When every Writer on ‘Sikh Marg’ has so much respect for Guru Granth Sahib and is keen to spread Philosphy of Guru Granth Sahib, commonly known as ‘Dasan Guruan Di Jyot’, then in my view, there should be no ego/anger among any of writer, but we are all ‘Humans’ and are prone to mistakes, so as a Sikh of Guru Granth Sahib we sholve resolve matters by taking Guidance of Guru.

As a Student, I will humbly request all my elder Respectable Sikh Writers to leave aside their anger and differences and let be united to fight anti-sikh forces. Danger is quite high these days when ‘Pujari Tola’ is leading Sikh Panth to Nowhere and ‘Fake Letters’ under the sign of RSS program Visitor Jathedars (Tankhaiya themselves, accused of Polygamy) are circulated by ‘Dubious Character’ individuals sitting behind PC to confuse all E-Sangat.

Some Apanthic websites are seen missing ‘Guru Granth Sahib’ bani articles, and are busy promoting some Durga Stories or Incarnations of Hindu Mythology or Gossip Sex-Stories under the ‘Sweet-Coated’ name used as ‘Dasam’ to emotionally blackmail and confuse Sikh Youth. Dubious Character have brain-washed Young Sikhs so much, that Apanthic websites forgetting Important Issues hitting Sikh Panth like

a)Apostate/Patitpuna

b)Sikh Youth marrying Non-Sikh

c)Sikh Minority Rights

d)Akalis performing Brahmanical Rituals in Mandirs.

e)Sikh Taksals/Sampardas performing Havans.

f)Non-Follower Sikh Rehat Maryada individuals appointed as Granthis/Jathedars of Sikh Quam.

But are busy making cartoons on one of Respected Sikh Pacharaks – Prof.Darshan Singh and S.Jagtar Singh Jachak. They are wasting energy spitting venom on ‘One Granth Follower/Parcharaks’ as ordered by Tenth Nanak but hardly put any articles on Rashtriya Sikh Sangat Website’s Eminent Personalities, all ‘Two/Three Granth Follwers’

I remember, Dilgeer ji few days back write a very informative article regarding current Situation of Sikh Panth ‘Sikh Dharam Da Ki Banega’. And similar Painful Article depicting current Scenario of Sikh Panth was published by S.Gursharan Singh Kasel namely ‘Bhai, Kitte tu Gurmat di gal te ni Karnee’. Both the writers are on same track and have same Pain for Sikh Panth ? Then there is no reason for all not getting all Under One belt of Guru Granth Sahib Samarpat/Dedicated website ‘Sikh Marg’.

It’s a jodree/benti from one of the Sikh Marg reader (Sangat) to S, Harjinder Singh Dilgeer ji to leave aside differences and keep your articles maintain on Sikh Marg and keep updating ‘Sikh Marg’ with your informative Posts/Articles. We look forward toward you to clear many Doubts regarding Sikh History.

Difference of Opinion is healthy sign of Any Developed Quam and when we have Guru Granth Sahib ji with us to guide on every aspect, we can come out to any Solution with keeping base/kaswatti of Guru Granth Sahib. Similar request to S.Gurcharan Singh Brar ji and S.Gursharan Singh Kasel ji, last thing we don’t need is Infighting among ‘One Granth Followers’. Let us all be united and try to put more and more informative articles on Guru Granth Sahib Bani along with creating Awareness among Sikh Youth about Dangers these days from ‘Kesadhari Hindus’ who are bent to take Sikhism into Brahmanism under the name of ‘Puratan Maryada’

Let us all read, Guru Granth Sahib bani shabad and be united as ‘Gursikhs of Satguru’ and preach One Granth (Guru Granth Sahib),One Panth (Khalsa), One Maryada (SRM) as ‘Eko’ sidhant enshrined in Guru Granth Sahib.

pAuVI ] (GGS-648)

gurmuiK sKIaf isK gurU mylfeIaf ]

ieik syvk gur pfis ieik guir kfrY lfeIaf ]

ijnf guru ipafrf min iciq iqnf BfAu gurU dyvfeIaf ]

gur isKf ieko ipafru gur imqf puqf BfeIaf ]

guru siqguru bolhu siB guru afiK gurU jIvfeIaf ]14]

'Gurmukh sakhian sikh Guru Milayean

Ik Sewak Gur Paas Ik Gur Kaare Layean

Jina Gur Pyara Man Chit Tina Bhao Guru Devaiyan

Gur Sikha Iko Pyaar Gur Mita Putta Bhaiyan

Gur Satgur Boleh Sab Gur Aaakh Guru Jivaaeyan"

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(04/05/08)
jsbIr kOr iQMd mlysLIaf

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh.

I don’t know anyone of you personally. What I do know is that me and lots of my friends go to the Sikh Marg website and learn so much about Tatt gurmatt. Dr Dilgeer Jis articles are full of Gyan.

I would appeal to Dr Sahib Ji to withdraw his action  and continue posting on Sikh marg. I would also appeal to Makhan Singh Ji to keep on updating the site. I visit it almost every week and download articles for my friends and pass on to those who don’t have internet. Just because we do not write emails don’t mean we are not reading or visiting- we are the silent majority. as it is Tatt gurmatt has so little space - only Singh Sabha Canada and Sikh marg and Rozana Spokesman. Rest so many anti gurmatt sites providing wrong info.

Your younger sister

JKThind Malaysia.

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(04/05/08)
srbjoq isMG svwdI

gFDI dy ichry qoN ‘mhfqmF’ vflf mKOtf lhux vflI ikqfb “gFDI aMzr krOs aYgËfmInyÈn” nUM PrImFt ivwc irlIË kIqf igaf.

PrImFt (srbjoq isMG svwdI) amrIkn PoË ivwc bqOr krnl (irtfiert) srivs kr cuwky jI bI isMG aqy AunF dy sfQI itm bfstn vloN ilKI ikqfb “gFDI aMzr krOs aYgËfmInyÈn” nUM PrImFt ivwc iewk pwqrkfr smyln ivwc irlIË kIqf igaf. ikqfb ivwc gFDI vloN afpxIaF jIvn khfxIaF ivwc vfr-vfr ilKy JUT nUM jwg Ëfhr kIqf. ies ikqfb ivwc 1893 qoN lY ky 1914 qwk gFDI nfl aPrIkf ivwc krmvfr 1909-1924-1936 ivwc vfprIaF GtnfvF, ijMnF ivwc pRmuwK qOr qy gFDI nUM tryn ivwco Dwkf mfr ky suwt dyx dI khfxI nUM mUloN hI rwd kIqf hY. krnl jI bI isMG ny pwqrkfrF nfl gwlbfq kridaF ikhf ik tryn vflI Gtnf gFDI nfl vfprI hI nhIN. ieh iewk mnGVq khfxI hY. Aunf iewk tYlI mUvI idKfAuidaF ikhf ik Bfrq srkfr tryn vflI GtnF nUM komfqrI pwDr qy pRcwlq krn aqy Xfd nUM qfËf krn leI Bfrq ivwc AuWc ahudy qy ibrfjmfn iksy nf iksy ivakqI qoN Ausy tryn ivwc Xfqrf krvfAudI hY. AunF ikhf ik 2002 ivwc BfrqI suMdrIaF, 2003 ivwc BfrqI ikRkt tIm, 2004 Bfrq dy sfbkf rfÈtrpqI abdul klfm koloN 2006 ivwc pRDfn mMqrI mnmohn isMG koloN ies gwzI ivwc Xfqrf krvfeI geI. krnl jI bI isMG ny ikhf ik ies ikqfb nUM pVHn qoN bfad ijhVy lok gFDI nuM sFqI df msIhf mMndy hn AunF sfiraF df Brm dUr ho jfvygf ik gFDI dI aslIaq kI sI. ies qoN pihlF vI krnl jI bI isMG ny “ibhfeINz df mfsk afP izvIintI” ikqfb rfhIN gFDI df kfPI pKMz nMgf kIqf sI. ies smyN krnl jI bI isMG ny amrIkn pwqrkfrf nfl qswlI bKÈ svfl juvfb kIqy. ies pwqrkfr sMmyln df sfrf pRbMD ‘iswK ienPrymÈn dy koafrzInyÈn’ sf Bjn isMG iBMzr ny kIqf sI.

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(04/05/08)
BfeI kfn isMG nfBf Drm pRcfr Porm, kfnpur

Ç ÃÄsiqgurU pRsfid] Ç

“jfgrqI Xfqrf” jF “bRfhmxI Xfqrf” !

Kflsf jI awj asIN Èbd gurU sfihb gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI iqn sO sflf gurqf gwdI ÈqfbdI mnf rhy hF. afAu! afpxy ihrdy qy hwQ rK ky ieh pVcol krIey ik vfkeI asIN Èbd gurU dI 300 sflf ÈqfbdI mnf rhy hF ik afpxI cODr aqy svfrQF dI Kfqr gurU dy nfm qy isrÌ ÉfnF pUrI hI kr rhy hF.

kuJ kU virh pihlF qKq hËUr sfihb ivKy gurdvfry dI nvIN iblizMg dI AusfrI, AuQy dy lokF ny puils mihkmy dy iewk vwzy afPIsr psrIcy nUM sONpI. ieh bMdf ikMnf kU pMQk hY, ieh Aus dy rMgy hoey dfhVY nUM vyK ky aqy Aus dIaF by isr pYr dIaF qkrIrF sux ky hI pqf lg jFdf hY. aYzy vwzy iswK ieiqhfsk sQfn dI ijmydfrI leI ieho ijhf bMdf hI kOm nUM ikAuN aqy ikQoN lwB gieaf. ies df isDf ijhf jvfb hY ik Auh srkfrI phuMc vflf aqy vwKvfdI ihMdU rfÈtr dy ihmfieqI, kwtr ihMdUvfdI sMgTn df chyqf hY. ieh iswK ivroDI sMgTn, BtkI hoeI iswK kOm nUM ihMdU smfj df iewk ihwsf bxfAux dI koeI kor ksr nhIN Cwzxf cfhMudy. dfs df iswDf ieÈfrf afr[ aYs[ aYs[ vl hY.

gurU svfry iswK vIro! ieQy dfs df mMqv iksy ivakqI ivÈyÈ qy icwkV AuCflnf nhIN hY. lyikn jy koeI bMdf iswK isDFqf df apmfn kry jF gurU AupdyÈF df apmfn kry qF Auh Gor inMdf df pfqr hY. aPsos dI gl ieh hY ik gurdvfry dI nvIN iblizMg dI AusfrI dI afDfr iÈlf rKn df jÈn ies bMdy ny “BUmI pUjx” dy rUp ivwc mnfieaf sI. ijs ivwc sfzy hor vwzy pMQk adfiraF dy afgU mOjUd sn jo Aus kuMz ivwc jÜ afidk vI pf rhy sn. iek cODrI nUM kI roeIey ieQy qy sfrf afvf hI AUq gieaf hY.

ies bMdy df ijkr ies lyK df ivÈf vI nhIN hY, ijkr jrUrI sI ies leI kIqf gieaf hY ikAuN ik ieh bMdf hI “jfgRqI Xfqrf” dy rUp ivwc kOm nUM AuWlU bxf irhf hY. BolI BflI iswK kOm ÈÈqrF vflI gwzI dy tfier pUMj pUMj ky afpxI ÈrDf df pRgtfvf kr rhI hY. ieh kwcI soc vfly iswK hI qy ienHF cODrIaF df inÈfnF huMdy hn. AuhnF ivcfiraf nUM qy koeI ieh dwsx vflf vI nhIN ky iswK “Èbd” df pujfrI hY “ÈÈqrF” df nhIN! ÈsqrF df snmfn krnF iewk alg ivÈf hY. kroVF rupieaf iekwTf krky, kI ienHF ny iswK smfj dy piqq puxy dy suDfr leI Krc krnF hY jF Drm pRcfr leI? ieh pYsf iswK rihq mirafdf dIaF DwjIaF Auzfx leI aqy nfnk ÈfhI klMzr dy ivroD leI ieh sfrf Dn afr[ aYs[ aYs[ dI mrËI nfl Krc hoxf hY, ies gwl df aMdfËf iblkul spÈt hY iesy leI gurqf gwdI purb nfnk ÈfhI klMzr dI avhylnf kridaF hoieaF, 20 akqUbr (nfnk ÈfhI qfrIÉ anusfr) dI QF, 30 akqUbr 2008 nUM (bRfhmxI jMqrI anusfr) mnfieaf jf irhf hY. ijs nUM pUrf iswK smfj aqy sfzy srvAuc Dfrimk adfiraF dy afgU vI afpxI prvfngI dy cwuky hn qF hI Èfied ieh sfry mon hn. afAu mUl ivÈy vwl cfq mfrIey:

iswK pMQ dy do qKq – qKq hËUr sfihb aqy qKq ptnf sfihb qy viraF qo bRfhmx vfdI, iBÈtR pRbMD qMqr aqy iswK rihq mirafdf df apmfn krn vfly kuwJ lokF df kbËf hY. ieh lok pMQ Aupr kdoN aqy ikvyN kfbË ho jFdy hn ies nfl sfzy pMQk afgUaF aqy iswK kOm nUM kdI vI koeI srokfr nhIN rihaf.

ienHF do qKqF Aupr idn rfq iswK rihq mirafdf df KwulHf mËfk Auzfieaf jf irhf hY. Èbd gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df BrpUr apmfn kIqf jf irhf hY. aqy sfzy pMQk cODrI aqy bRfhmx vfdI rIqF ivwc glqfn iswK kOm, mUk drÈk bx ky ieh sfrf qmfÈf keI viraF qo vyK rhI hY. jo gurU df iswK ies ivÈy qy afpxI afvfË AuTfAuNdf hY, Aus dI avfË guMzf grdI nfl dbf idwqI jFdI hY.

pMQ afgUaF koloN kuJ svfl

1-qKq hËUr sfihb ivKy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy nfl pMj Cy gRMQF df pRkfÈ hY. ik afm ÈrDflU iswKF nUM ieh pqf hY ik Auh ijQy mwQf tyk rhy hn AuhnF ivwc AunHF dy ipRaf: Èbd gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ikhVy hn?

2- gurU dy snmuK mwQf tykx vflIaF sMgqF (jo gurU rUp hn) vl gRMQI ipT kr ky bYTf hY. aqy iewk syvf dfr Aus nUM sMgqF vl ipT kr ky cOr kr irhf hY?

3- gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df pfT ho irhf hY, nfl hI rfgI kIrqn kr rhy hn kI ieh mirafdf aDIn hY?

4- swc KMz ivKy dsm ipqf dI Poto lgI hoxf, joq jgfAuxf, cMdn iGs iGs ky sMgqF nUM iqlk lgfAuxf, dIvy QfÜ ivwc rK ky ÈÈqrF dI afrqI krnf. mwuK qy kpVf bMn ky iqlk DfrI pujfrI df ÈÈqrF vfly kmry ivwc pRvyÈ krnf. aqy AunHF dI pUjf krnF, ÈsqrF nMU dwuD nfl ieÈnfn krvfnf aqy AunHF awgy DUxI jlfAUnF, AuQy mOjUd sfihb gurU gMRQ sfihb vl vyKxf qk nhIN, kI ieh vI iswK rihq mirafdf df koeI ihwsf hY? ik iswK isDFqF aqy Èbd gurU df ieh apmfn nhIN?

awj Èbd gurU df apmfn krn vfly bRfhmxI ivcfr Dfrf vfly pujfrIaF aqy pRbMDkF df ivroD krn dI bjfey sfzy hor pMQk adfry AuhnF nfl kMDy nfl kMDf rlf ky AuhnF dI “jfgrqI Xfqrf” dI agvfeI kr rhy hn aqy bwukF dIaF bwukF sMgq pfsoN iekwTf kIqf Dn AuhnF dI JolI ivwc pf rhy hn.

gurU svfry iswK vIro aqy BYxo! kI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI, iswK rihq mirXfdf aqy nfnk ÈfhI kYlMzr df ivroD krn vfly kOm ivwc koeI “jfgRqI” pYdf kr skdy hn. iek pfsy gurU gRMQ sfihb df apmfn ho irhf hovy aqy “isK rihq mirXfdf” dy Ault “iswK isDFqF” df mÉOl Auzfieaf jf irhf hovy. dUjy pfsy asIN “300 sfl gurU dy nfl” df dfavf krIey ieh qy korf JUT hY hor kuwJ nhIN. Èbd gurU dI swcI ÈqfbdI qF ienHF qKqF qy “iswK rihq mirXfdf” bhfl kr ky hI mnfeI sfrQk ho skdI hY. ieh kMm inzrqf aqy iewCf ÈkqI nfl iewk jut ho ky ienHF qKqF dy mhMqF aqy pujfrIaF df ivroD krn nfl hI mumikn hY. 1903 dI “isMG sBf lihr” df ieiqhfs iewk vfr iPr dohrfn dI jrUrq hY. pr! svfrQI, zrpok, ahMkfrI aqy lflcI srkfrI cftUkfr Dfrimk afgUaF dI aYzI vwzI BIV ivc, ikQoN lwBIey igafnI idwq isMG vrgf gurU df bytf aqy inzr lIzr, jo dXfnMd dI bxfeI iswK ivroDI mhfiÈaF aqy lflyaF dI POj nfl kwlf hI iBV gieaf. ieh gurU df ipafrf, qF qd qwk cwup nF bYTf jdoN qk drbfr sfihb ivcoN, iewk iek pujfrI aqy mhMq nUM bfhr nF kwZ swuitaf. poRPYsr drÈn isMG jI df Auh lyK Xfd afAuNdf hY- “hr ÈfK py AuWlU bYTf hY, ies bfg kI hflq ikaf hogI…?

BfeI kfn isMG nfBf Drm pRcfr Porm

kfnpur

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(03/05/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor and Dr. Harjinder Singh ji Dilgeer,

Today I read the letter by Dr. Dilgeer where he has stated to remove all his articles from Sikhmarg website.

It is very unfortunate that learned Sikh Historian has taken such an adverse decision.

I have been following the messages on your website for past few days.

Mr. Gursharan Singh ji Kasel (whom I know personally, is a very humble, honest, helping and learned GurSikh. He personally helped me a lot when I first came to Canada though he didn’t knew me at all) asked for the reason why Dr. Dilgeer oppose Nanakshahi Calendar and what is the evidence that Guru Nanak was born in Katak.

I know that the way Kasel ji wrote is not his usual tone, but Dr. Dilgeer should have removed the doubts.

Personally I agree with the research of Karam Singh Historian but I am ready to change my views if some concrete and solid evidence is provided. As Michael Shermer states :

“History is a knowledge and like all knowledge it progresses and changes.We continually refine our certainty about claims and that’s what historical revisionism is all about.”(Why People Believe Wierd Things, p179)

Regarding Nanakshahi Calendar my views are that it is the waste of time and resources of Sikhs. Also I have read Dr. Dilgeer’s views about Nanakshahi calendar and I agree with his views. I dont use and I dont think I will ever use it. I dont know about others.

So I humbly request Dr. Dilgeer to not withdraw his articles from Sikhmarg website as they are well researched articles and provide good knowledge about many unknown historical facts.

Historical knowledge is not just obtained from reading one or two books, Dr. Dilgeer’s articles speaks for themselves, though we all may not agree with his views.

Lets all agree to disagree.

hoie iekqR imlhu myry BfeI duibDf dUir krhu ilv lfie ] hir nfmY ky hovhu joVI gurmuiK bYshu sPf ivCfie ]1] (GGS, 1185)

Come and join together, O Brothers; dispel your sense of duality and let yourselves be lovingly absorbed in the Lord. Let yourselves be joined to the Name of the Lord; become Gurmukh, spread out your mat, and sit down together to resolve your differences.

Gurpreet Singh Sumra Brampton, Canada

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Thanks S. Gurpreet Singh Sumra for your nice advice.

 Gyani Jarnal Singh Arshi from Malaysia has also requested him to tear off his Bedawa so that we may continue to follow Gurus' Teachings as brothers and sisters. 

Since SGPC and its Head Ministers wish to follow Katak Pooranmashi as the Birthday of Guru Nanak Sahib, Dr. Harjinder Singh Dilgeer's view may be then why not accept 20 October 1469, which is equivalent to Poornmashi of 1526 Bikram, rather than changing every year? 

And if it is 15 April 1469, they Nanakshahi Calendar should also commence from that date wby Chaitra or Vaisakh ??, which are based on Lunar and Solar Calendars ? 

As regards the socalled Nanakshahi Calendar, it is merely a copy of the Hindus Saka Calendar except advancing 7/8 days. Dr. Pal Singh Purewal, IOSS, SGPC and their toadies have all erred by changing all the past dates on false pretext.

I have already sent Email to SGPC and other well-wishers but no one is going to change stand as most of them have become Kathputlees / Robots in the hands of RSS Hindutva.

I am sure Dr. Harjinder Singh Dilgeer will change his mind and continue to share his Articles on Website: www.sikhmarg.com in the best interest of Guru Panth Globally.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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(02/05/08)
qijMdr isMG

Respected vir ji

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.

Veer ji you have written a letter dated 27.04.2008 in your site. The last line is that u will not update the site if some people give some reasons.

You know many people do not like this site specially sants and babaas and so many likes.

They will take advantage of your this offer and will flood your site with messages to close this site.

So please do not think like this. If any body does not like anything on this site then he should not visit this site or read it.

Please continue with your present policies and keep on updating this site as before.

Thanks.

Tejinder singh.

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(29/04/08)
srvjIq isMG

igafnI Èyr isMG vI JUTf

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sYkrfmYNto (kYlyPornIaf) ivKy dsm gRMQ bfry (23 PrvrI 2008) hoey aMqr rfÈtrI sYmInfr ivwc igafnI Èyr isMG dy Èfml hox bfry sYmInfr dy pRbMDkf vlo pRcfr kIqf igaf sI. pr igafnI Èyr isMG sYmInfr ivwc Èfml nhI hoieaf. pRbMDkf vlo igafnI Èyr isMG dI gYr hfjrI ivwc Aus dI iewk vIzIAu ivKfeI geI. Xfd rhy ieh vIzIAu 31 jnvrI nUM qKq sRI dmdmf sfihb ivKy hoey sMmfgm smyN bxfeI geI sI. pfTk ies vIzIAu nUM http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/3899/2008-02-14.html dyK skdy hn.

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BfeI jsibMdr isMG Éflsf dI pihlI ikqfb ‘dsm gRMQ df ilKfrI kOx?’ (Bfg pihlf) jUn 2006 ivwc rlIj hoeI sI aqy kroV rupieaf dyx df aYlfn lyKk vlo qKq sRI kysgV sfihb jI dy muK syvfdfr igafnI qrlocn isMG jI nUM 29 jUn 2005 ivwc ilKy gey pwqr ivwc kIqf igaf sI. ieh pwqr ‘dsm gRMQ df ilKfrI kOx’ Bfg pihlf dy pMnf nUM: 268 qy piVaf jf skdf hY. BfeI jsibMdr isMG Éflsf dI dUjI ikqfb 28 sqMbr 2007 nUM cMzIgHV ivKy rlIj kIqI geI sI. Aus ikqfb df rivAU gurmuK ipafry BfeI s: amrIk isMG DOl vlo kIqf igaf hY aqy pfTk Aus nUM pVH cuwky hn. ijs qoN ieh spwÈt ho igaf hY ky ig: Èyr isMG aMbflf styj qoN JUT hI nhI boldf sgo guriswK ivdvfnF nUM anpVH dsdf hoieaf Kqrnfk DmkIaF vI dy irhf hY.

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afdr sihq

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afdr sihq

srvjIq isMG

(not:- asIN sfeIt nUM awpzyt bMd krn bfry iliKaf sI nf ik sfeIt nUM hI bMd krn bfry. Bfv ieh sI ik asIN afpxf hor smF jo hr hPqy ies qy lfAuNdy hF Auh lfAuxF bMd kr dyvFgy. ijqnI ku jfxkfrI pY cuwkI hY Auh hI TIk hY. aqy jy kr koeI afpxy lyK htfAuxf cfhuMdf hovy htf dyvFgy. gwl bhuqI pYsy dI nhIN smy dI hY. pYsy qF asIN keI sflF dy zomn nym aqy hositMg dy pihlF hI Ëmf krvfey hoey hn-sMpfdk)

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(29/04/08)
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siqkfr Xog mwKx isMG jI,

vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

afp jI ny jo ‘iswK mfrg sfeIt’ dy bMd krn dI gwl kIqI hY. iesƒ bMd krn bfry qF quhfƒ socxf hI nhIN cfhIdf. mYN qF smJdf hF ik ‘iswK mfrg sfeIt’ sfzy leI swB qoN cMgI hY ijQy isrP gurbfxI dI ivcfr huMdI hY. qusIN iekwly hI iesdf sfrf Krcf vI shfr rhy ho. mYN jo QoVI ijhI gurmiq bfry jfxkfrI hfsl kIqI hY Aus ivwc ‘iswK mfrg sfeIt’ df muwK Xogdfn hY. ijs pfTk ƒ ieh aiBmfn hY ik ieh sfeIt isrP Ausdy lyKf jF icwTIaF krky cldI hY, Auh AusdI mrËI hY afpxy lyK jF icwTI Byjy jF nF Byjy. mYN ies sfeIt ƒ sihXog dyx leI hr qrHF nfl afp jI dy nfl hF.

afp df ÈuBicMqk,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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(28/04/08)
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Dear S. Makhan Singh jee Purewal (Canada),

  Waheguru jee ka Khalsa  Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Every week, I have been getting a lot of vaulable Gurmatt Knowledge by reading various Articles in Punjabi. Please continue this selfless Seva.

As regards, solution of such controversies or (between Dr Harjinder Singh Dilgeer and S. Gursharan Singh Kasel) as joined by S. Gurcharan Singh Brar Jeownwala & Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon..... I am of the view that in future when any person raises any issue or wishes to seek certain clarification from other person, you may wish to send his views by Email to the person concerned with a request to respond to the said person under advice to you. If still remains unresolved, then only it should be shared on Website for others views/comments, if so desired.

Once, I was also caught but when I responded, discussion came to an end though at the first instance, personal issue raised could not have been shared on Website !!

In regard to my doubts about Nanakshahi Calendar, you may pass on my Email to M/s Kasel and Brar so that they can assist me with specific replies not exceeding two or three paragraphs in English or Punjab as private correspondence [ OR ] give me Email Address of S. Gursharan Singh Kasel.

With best wishes,

Gurmit Singh (Sydney)

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(28/04/08)
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sR[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jI iswK Drm df pRcfr krn leI jo nIqI qusIN apxfeI hoeI hY Ausdy leI isMG sBf ieMtrnYsnl kYnyzf quhfzf bhuq bhuq DMnvfd krdI hY qy kfmnf vI krdI hY ik qusIN afAux vfly smyN ivc vI iesy qrHF inrMqr ies pRcfr dy islisly nUM jfrI rwKo.

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gurU pMQ dy dfs,

isMG sBf ieMtrnYsnl kYnyzf.

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(27/04/08)
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(20/04/08)
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mfn PokI Èohrq leI aÉbfrF dIaF surÉIaF `c afAuxf cfhuMdY: zoz

kotkpUrf, 19 apRYl (guirMdr isMG mihMdIrwqf) : hrI rqn Xukqf jI dy 12 apRYl nUM pRkfÈq hoey lyK ivcoN hMkfr jF inMidaf dI boa nhIN afAudIN. sgoN iewk icMqk qy cyqMn lyKk vjoN AunHF ny bRfhmxvfdI rsmF nUM iswKF vloN apxf ley jfx `qy ivcfr crcf kIqI hY. pr mfn dl vloN ies lyK ivwc koeI Éfs gwl nf hox kr ky ies nUM 15 apRYl qk nf gOlxf qy 15 qfrIÉ nUM apxI ivsfKI dI kfnÌrMs dI Ébr spoksmYn ivwc nf dyK ky ros vjoN 16, 17 qy 18 apRYl nUM ies lyK nUM rfeI df phfV bxf ky pyÈ krn bfry Cpy ibafnF `coN eIrKf dI boa JlkdI hY ijhVI ik iewk rfjnIqk pfrtI vfsqy bhuq hI mfVI gwl hY. ienHF ÈbdF df pRgtfvf kridaF iksy smyN ismrnjIq isMG mfn dy nyVly sfQI rhy qy mfn dIaF Êlq nIqIaF kr ky akflI dl aMimRqsr (pMj pRDfnI) dy jQybMDk skwqr bxy BfeI suKdyv isMG zoz ny kIqf. AunHF mfn nUM svfl kIqf hY ik ies lyK ivcoN isrÌ quhfnUM hI ieh kuwJ nËr ikAuN afieaf? jy afieaf vI qF ivsfKI qoN bfad hI ikAuN afieaf? AunHF puiCaf ik mfn sfihb ipClI ivsfKI `qy, qrn qfrn, bfbf buZf jI qy mMjI dIvfn hfl aMimRqsr ivKy hoey smfgmF mOky sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dI hËUrI ivwc zFgo-zFg ho ky quhfzy ihrdy ikAuN nf vlUMDry gey? AunHF ikhf ik ÈRomxI kmytI vloN pRkfÈq ikqfb iswK ieiqhfs `c iswK gurUaF nUM lutyry, zfkU qy hor apmfn-jnk ÈbdF nfl sMboDn kIqf igaf quhfzy ihrdy AudoN vI ÈFq rhy? bfdl dI BfeIvfl pfrtI Bfjpf dy afgU aYl[ ky[ azvfnI dI ikqfb dIaF kfpIaF quhfzI pfrtI ny ikAuN nf sfVIaF qy Aus ivruD mfmlf drj krn dI mMg ikAuN nf kIqI? AunHF ikhf ik hrI rqn Xukqf mfn dl df buDIjIvI sYWl df pRDfn ho ky jy mfn dy sohly gfvy qF Auh buDIjIvI hY qy jy mfn dI pfrtI dI ivsfKI kfnÌrMs dI Ébr spoksmYn ivwc nf lwgy qF spoksmYn dy sMpfdk qy hrI rqn Xukqf `qy prcf drj krn dI mMg ÌokI ÈOhrq hfsl krnf nhIN qF hor kI hY? mfn PokI ÈOhrq leI aÉbfrF dIaF surKIaF `c afAuxf cfhuMdf hY. AunHF sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb nUM ikqfb ilKx bfry mfn sfihb dy igly nUM byhUdf dsidaF ikhf ik mhfn ivdvfn qy iswK icMqk BfeI kfnH isMG nfBf dI ikqfb mhfn koÈ dy pMnF nMbr 436 ivwc AunHF iksy gwl df hvflf dyx mOky sRI gurU gRMQ sfihb nUM mhfn pusqk iliKaf hY. AunHF ikhf ik mfn sfihb Éud afeI[ pI[ aYs[ aÌsr hox nfqy ies gwl qoN axjfx ikAuN hn ik dÌf jF Dfrf nIXq nUM muwK rwK ky qYa kIqIaF jFdIaF hn. hrI rqn Xukqf dI nIXq sfzIaF BfvnfvF nUM Tys phuMcfAux dI nhIN ikAuNik AunHF iliKaf hY ik “mYN spwÈt kr idaF ik mYN qF iewk ÈrDflU dy nfqy ies bRfhmxI rIq nUM gurU Gr ivwc cldI vyK ky jfxnf cfhuMdf hF ik ies nUM iswKI ivwc ikAuN pRvfn kr ilaf igaf? mYN ikMqU nhIN kr irhf, kyvl jfxkfrI hI mMg irhf hF”. AunHF ikhf ik ieQy lyKk dI nIXq mfVI nhIN ikAuNik keI vfr qF mfVI nIXq nfl siq sRI akfl bulfeI vI pRvfn nhIN kIqI jFdI. AunHF ikhf ik iewk afdmI apxIaF anmol qy kImqI ilKqF nfl iswK kOm dI syvf kr irhf hY pr mfn isrÌ aÉbfrF dIaF surKIaF `c afAux leI qy ÌokI ÈOhrq Kwtx leI Aus mhfn ÈÉsIaq ivruD prcy drj krn dI mMg kr irhf hY. s[ zoz ny ikhf ik mfn nUM s[ bfdl qy afr[ aYs[ aYs[ df QfpVf iml igaf hY ikAuNik pihlF vI qF spoksmYn `qy srkfr dy QfpVy nfl hI prcy drj hoey sn. iesy ibnfa `qy mfn sfihb spoksmYn `qy prcy drj krn dIaF zINgF mfr rhy hn.

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(20/04/08)
ivcfr crcf ivcoN kuwJ ivcfr

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

All these political and religious Sikh leaders have outlived their utility, if any. Since they are not interested to retire, they deserve the same treatment as was meted to the egoist and greedy Masands by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib. 

As no one extended any assistance to the Editor Joginder Singh except discharged Faujis and other common persons, now the current corrupt regime is unable to digest his progress in the form of ROZANA SPOKESMAN. Like Rajay Sheenh Mukadum Kutay... (GGS 1288), they wish to entangle him in different court-cases over silly matters because they can't match him. 

Badal, Vedanti, Makkar and other Pujaris have already failed, so others will also lick the dust whether editors of Ajit or santsipahi or brahminical cults or such frustrated and defeated persons.

Gyani Jarnail Singh and Khalsa Harjinder Singh have already explained that no offence has been committed by calling Granth as Book, there being no other equivalent English word. It is just as Amrit Initiation - Khanday Dee Pahul is written as "Baptism" in the Sikh Reht Maryada (1945, SGPC). Then no action against SGPC. Gurduaras in foreign countries continue to be described as Temple including Golden Temple ??

Let us strengthen the VOICE OF SPOKESMAN and extend our assistance and cooperation by way of Tann, Mann, Dhann Daswandh.

Gurmit Singh (Australia) 

Guru Piayario

I have also said it before.... this isnt about anything except Language/Vocabulary/semantics.. Wasnt it Shakespeare that wrote - a Rose by any other name is still a Rose ? We get all riled up about the English word "Book" and are perfectly at ease with the exact same word "Granth" in Sanskrit/Hindi/Punjabi/Urdu ?? why ?/ the right word is ETERNAL GURU because the Divine Message is ETERNAL..aad SACH jugaad Sach Nanak hoise bhee Sach...its the MESSAGE not the physical trappings....after all the physical human dehs of our Guru sahibs have also left this earth..1469-1708..BUT their MESSAGE is HERE and will be Forever..in whatever FORM..the next millineum may show..whoever ever imagined CD/DVD/Internet/WWW..memory sticks/flash cards/hard disks..etc etc when Bhai Gurdass Ji was scribing the AAD Granth Ji in the 16th century ?? Who can tell what MEDIUM is coming NEXT ?? BOOKS may go out of fashion alltogether...where are the stone tablets of the babylonians? the leather leaves of the egyptians...SIKHISM/GURMATT is the FUTURE and not time bound to any MEDIUM. The WORLD is becoming PAPERLESS !!! BUT the DIVINE MESSAGE off GURBANI/SGGS will OUTLIVE everything....Genuine SATIKAAR of SGGS is reading/vichaar and LIVING GURBANI - as our Gurus did..our ancestors did...fokeh RITUALS are for Fokeh sikhs

Yukta just posed a query...and Sardar joginder Singh ji has answered it rather well..i would say..others should have answered the question according to Guru nanak Jis gurbani...ROSS na keejey UTTAR deejeh..Provide the answers and not get OFFENDED. Others will ask even more questions..GURU NANAK JI was asked so many questions....even addressed as BALAKl..BUT GURU JI didnt take offense at all..GURU JI answered each and every one of the questions..just read SIDDH gost Bani in SGGS. Guru Ji didnt lodge a FIR..How dare this oldie call me Balak ?? arrest him immediately !!! what type of Sikhs are we ?? GURMATT is all time SACH..it has the power to stand up and be counted against all odds and enemies - within and without.

Jarnail Singh Gyani

Dear All,

How thick can one get ....

Granth means Book (substantial book, tome). Guru Granth means Teacher Book or Enlightener Book, and this Enlightener Book is our Living Guru !

The Guru Granth these days also comes in the form of software that is part of a website, on a cd or other software carriers. You could than call it the Guru CD or the Guru Website, and it will still be the Living Guru.

Gurfateh.

Harjinder Singh

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(17/04/08)
avqfr isMG imsLnrI

iswK sYNtr rYizMg kYlyPornIaF dI ivlwKx ivsfKI

(avqfr isMG imÈnrI) gurduafrf iswK sYNtr rYizMg kYlyPornIaF ivKy Kflsf sfjn idvs vYsfKI dy sbMD ivwc ijwQy ÈukRvfr nUM gurbfxI df aKMz pfT arMB kIqf igaf, gurduafry nUM KUbsUrq sjfieaf igaf, lMgr aquwt vrqy, ÈnIvfr nUM bIbI srbjIq kOr cImF dy jQy ny gqky dy KUbsUrq ËOhr idKfey EQy pihly kfnPRMs mIitMg kIqI geI ijs ivwc amYrkn goiraF nUM ivÈyÈ qOr qy bulfieaf igaf. sfzy imÈnrI jQy nUM vI ivÈyÈ qOr qy pRogRfm qy bulfieaf sI. kfnPrMs mIitMg ivKy sB bulfiraF ny afpxy afpxy ivcfr pyÈ kIqy. pRbMDkF aqy bulfiraF ivwc ivÈyÈ sn-ig[ amrjIq isMG, zf[ hrivMdr isMG "ibrk", sYktRI lYNhbr isMG dusFJ, sR[ gurmyl isMG, sR[ mohn isMG, bIbI srbjIq kOr, bIbI hrismrq kOr Kflsf, istI myhr im[ kIq vYbstr, crc muKI tOm mfrf aqy ims lIn PYirk pfdrI afidk. gurU gRMQ pRcfr imÈn afP USA vloN Dfrimk iltRycr dI stfl lgfeI geI ijwQy ijafdf iltRycr amYrkn goiraF ny ilaf aqy iswKI dy icMn kVf aqy KMzy krIb hryk amYrkn ny lY ky pihny. AunHF ivwc iswK Drm bfry jfnx df BfrI AuqÈfh sI. bfbf gurcrn isMG aKMz kIrqnI ny vI aKMz pfT dI syvf kridaF sroiqaF nUM iswKI bfry pRyrnf idwqI.

KUbsUrq njfrf Es vyly dyKx nUM imilaf jd gOry gorIaF dsqfrF sjf aqy pMjfbI sUt pf ky hU-bhUh pMjfbI lwg rhy sn. gorIaF nUM pMjfbI sUt bhuwq hI suhxy lwg rhy sn. ieh sB pwgF aqy sUt iswK sYtr rYizMg vloN PrI idwqy gey sn. ieh BrfqrI Bfv df ivlwKx idRÈ sI. gory gorIaF pMjfbI Kfxf bVy svfd nfl Kf rhy sn. bhuq sfry gory gorIaF ny dfsF dI Dfrimk stfl qy af ky iswK Drm aqy klcr bfry svfl puwCy ijnHF dy jvfb Kfs krky bIbI hrismrq kOr Kflsf ny bVy AuqÈfh nfl idwqy. BfvyN ies ielfky ivKy sMgq svfeI hY pr amrIknF ny pMjfbI sUt pf ky sMgq dI rOxk vDfeI. aijhF idRÈ dfsF ny pihlIvfr ivdyÈ ivwc vyiKaf. asIN ies kmytI aqy sMgq dI qfrIP krdy hF ijnHF ny gYr iswKF nUM ieqnI vwzI igxqI ivwc gurU Gr ivKy bulfieaf. bfkI gurduafiraF nUM vI aijhI ivÈflqf idKfAuxI cfhIdI hY aqy suwc iBwt jfq pfq qy kwtVpuxy df iqafg krnf cfhIdf hY. iswK Drm srbsFJf Drm hY ijs df ijkr gurU gRMQ sfihb ivKy keI vfr af cuwkf hY-sBy sFJIvfl sdfien aqy avl alfh nUr Aupfieaf kudriq ky siB bMdy] (gurU gRMQ jI) asIN ies ivÈfl srbsFJI ivcfrDfrf nUM kyvl gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy bfhrI siqkfr aqy rumfilaF ivwc hI vlytI iPrdy hF. awj sMsfr aijhI sFieMtyiPk ivcfrDfrf nUM qrs irhf hY ijs nUM dunIaF dI hryk bolI ivwc pRcfrn dI loV hY.

aYqvfr nUM inÈfn sfihb df colf bdlx dI syvf pMjF isMGF dI rihnmfeI hyT kIqI geI. aKMz pfT dI spmfpqI AupRMq dIvfn sjfey gey ijs ivwc pihlF gurU Gr dy muwK gRMQI Bf[ amrjIq isMG aqy sfQI blrfm isMG jI ny kIrqn kIqf, zf[ "ibrk" jI dy mfmF jI ny kwcI bfxI dIaF Dfrxf vI lfeIaF. iewk trwk zRfeIvr guriswK hrdyv isMG ny Kflsy dI Èfn ivwc kivqf gfeI. sMgq dy AuWGy syvk sR mohn isMG ny vI Èbd kIrqn nfl hfjrI lvfeI. ies qoN AupRMq dfs avqfr isMG imÈnrI ny Kflsf sfjn idvs vYsfKI aqy iswK rihq mrXfdf qy Bfv pUrq kQf kIqI ijs ivwc ijwQy pRbMDkF dy ies Auprfly dI srfhnf kIqI EQy ikhf ik iknHF cMgf hovy jy ies gurU Gr ivKy "iswK rihq mrXfdf" vI lfgU kIqI jfvy aqy vwzy vwzy coilaF vfly ByKI sfDF sMqF df KihVf Cwz ky gurU dy hI lV ligaf jfvy ikAuNik gurU jI ny sMq ispfhI Kflsf sfijaf sI nf ik kyvl sMq. iPr bIbI hrismrq kOr Kflsf ny kIrqn viKafn krdy hoey aslI aMimRq gurU kI bfxI nUM drsfieaf-"aMimRq Èbd aMimRq hY bfxI" (gurU gRMQ jI) ies qoN bfad afKrI lYkcr sR gurmyl isMG jI ny idwqf jo Kflsy dI cVHdI klf bfry sI. sfzy syvf pRcfr qoN pRBfvq ho ky igafnI jI, pRDfn jI aqy sMgqF ny awgy qoN vI afAux df swdf idwqf.

ieh sfrf Auprflf gurU Gr dy muwK gRMQI Bf[ amrjIq isMG aqy gurduafry dy PfAUNzr pRDfn sR[ hrivMdr isMG "ibrk" aqy hor pqvMqy swjnf df sI. ijnHF ny rfq idn iewk krky bhuwq hI QoVy smyN ivwc KUbsUrq gurduafrf iqafr kIqf hY.

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(14/04/08)
jiqMdr isMG

Dear Bhai Makhan Singh ji

Waheguru ji khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fathe

Bhai Sahib ji firstly a extremely thanks for running gurmat site sikhmarg.com. I want to know one thing that why katha is not being held at shri harminder sahib, Amirtsar, is it any rule if yes then could u please tell us the history for always meditation with kirtan not with katha

thanks

Jatinder Singh

(ieh iek purfxI glq prMprf qurI af rhI hY ijs df ik gurmiq nfl koeI sMbMD nhIN hY. ies qrHF dIaF hor vI keI rvfieqF hn jo ik ibwlkuwl hI gurmiq qoN Ault hn. ijvyN ik bIbIaF nf qF hirmMdr sfihb kIrqn kr skdIaF hn aqy nf hI koeI hor syvf. ieh sB iswKI isDFqF dy muZly asUlF dy hI Ault hY. jy kr koeI ies ivc qbdIlI krnf cfhy qF prMprfvfdI, zyrfvfdI aqy smuwcf pKMzI sfD lfxf asmfn isr qy cuwk lYNdf hY. rfjnIqk lok votF dI Kfqr iksy nUM nrfjL nhIN krnf cfhuMdy, isWKI isDFqF df BfvyN mlIaf myt hoeI jfvy-sMpfdk)

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(14/04/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

HARMONY DAY FOR SIKHS

The Sikh Congregation Halls (Gurduara Sahib) established by the Sikhs all over the world are the best example of Harmony and friendly environment where all persons irrespective of caste, colour, gender, race, region, religion and status are welcome to participate and share free food as equals. This concept is well known as "Sangat and Pangat". Hence, we all should live in Harmony and Peace.

Extracts from Guru Granth Sahib, Sacred Scripture of the Sikhs

pMnf ñõ: isrIrfgu mhlf ñ]

nIcf aMdir nIc jfiq nIcI hU aiq nIcu] nfnku iqn kY sMig sfiQ vizaf isAu ikaf rIs]

ijQY nIc smflIain iqQY ndir qyrI bKsIs] ô] ó]

Guru Nanak Sahib says that I crave for the company of those persons, who are the most humble and of the lowest status in society because I don’t wish to associate with the wealthy people, who are full of ego. Moreover, the True Lord also bestows blessings and Grace on those humble people.

pMnf ù÷: rfgu mfJ mhlf õ]

sBu ko afsY qyrI bYTf] Gt Gt aMqir qUMhY vuTf]

sBy sfJIvfl sdfiein qUM iksY n idsih bfhrf jIAu] ó]

Everyone in this Universe has been pinning high hopes on the Almighty God because the True Lord pervades in the hearts of all beings. All people consider themselves as equal partners in receiving God’s benedictions and none perceives God as a separate Entity.

pMnf ñøñ: gAuVI guafryrI mhlf õ]

qUM myrf sKf qUM hI myrf mIqu] qUM myrf pRIqmu qum sMig hIqu]

qUM myrI piq qU hY myrf ghxf] quJ ibnu inmKu n jfeI rhxf] ñ]

O God! You are my own and mate. You are my dearest and well-wisher relative. You are my Honour and my valuable possession. Even for a moment, I cannot afford to live without God’s support.

pMnf óøö: afsf mhlf õ]

pr kf burf n rfKhu cIq] qum kAu duKu nhI BfeI mIq] ó]

O Mate! Never entertain any ill will or enmity against anyone else. Thus, you will not experience any suffering in life.

pMnf öññ: soriT mhlf õ Gru ò cAupdy]

eyku ipqf eyks ky hm bfirk qU myrf gur hfeI]

sux mIqf jIAu hmfrf bil bil jfsI hir drsnu dyhu idKfeI] ñ]

O Friend! God is our Father; we all are the children of the same Father and we are brothers & sisters having blessed with the greatest virtues by the True Lord. Listen and enable me to have a glimpse of the True Lord-sublime, and I would offer myself as a sacrifice to you.

pMnf ö÷ñ: DnfsrI mhlf õ]

nf ko myrf dusmnu rihaf nf hm iks ky bYrfeI] bRhm psfru psfirE Biqir

siqgur qy soJI pfeI] ò] sBu ko mIqu hm afpn kInf hm sBnf ky sfjn]

dUir prfieE mn kf ibrhf qf mylu kIE myrY rfjn] ó]

Neither we have any enemy or bitter feelings against others nor there is any one having enmity against us. By virtue of Gurus’ Teachings, we have been made to realize that the Almighty God, who is pervading throughout the world, is present within our hearts. Now we have made all the persons, as our friends and we too are friendly towards the whole world. Once we are united with God, all our afflictions, due to separation from the True Lord, have been cast away.

pMnf ÷òø: sUhI mhlf ñ Gru ò]

hm nhI cMgy burf nhI koie] pRxviq nfnku qfry soie] ô] ñ] ò]

We are not good and others are not bad. Guru Nanak Sahib prays: O God! You alone are the Saviour of all.

pMnf ññøõ: bsMqu mhlf õ Gru ò ihMzol]

hoie iekqR imlhu myry BfeI duibDf dUir krhu ilv lfie]

O Good Mates! Let us sit together and get rid of our difference and duality by attuning ourselves to God. Let us lead Truthful life by performing noble deeds.

pMnf ñòùù: kfnVf mhlf õ]

ibsir geI sB qfiq prfeI] jb qy sfDsMgiq moih pfeI] ñ] rhfAu]

nf ko bYrI nhI ibgfnf sgl sMig hm kAu bin afeI] ñ]

jo pRB kIno so Bl mfinE eyh sumiq sfDU qy pfeI] ò]

O Brother! Since the time, we have enjoyed the company of true devotees we have got rid of the jealousy of others. Now we find no one is our enemy or a stranger as we have developed love for the whole mankind. By virtue of God’s benediction, we have gained the right guidance in the company of true devotees.

pMnf ñóôù: ibBfs pRBfqI bfxI kbIr jI kI]

avil alh nUru Aupfieaf kudriq ky sB bMdy]

eyk nUr qy sBu jgu Aupijaf kAun Bly ko mMdy] ñ]

First of all, the Almighty God created the Divine Light and thereafter, whole universe came into existence. Since from the One Light, whole universe has welled-up, there should not be any doubt: "Who is good, and who is bad?"

pMnf ñóøò: slok syK PrId ky]

PrIdf bury df Blf kir gusf min n hZfie] dyhI rogu n lgeI plY sBu ikCu pfie] ÷ø]

Sheikh Farid says that try to be nice to a person, who has inflicted some injuries and loss to you, without bearing any malice towards him, as this forgiveness will result in your eternal bliss else you will be fretting and fuming inside with revenge, and you will gain everything in life.

Gurmit Singh, Tel. No. 61 2 9837 2787

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(13/04/08)
gurÈrn isMG ksyl

sMpfdk sR[ mwKx isMG puryvfl jIE,

vfihguru jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

bynqI hY ik ‘pMQk vIklI’ vYb sfeIt `qy iksy zf[ hrBjn isMG pitaflf vwloN ilKI ilKq “sRI dsm gRMQ: ivroDIaF ƒ Auqr” pVHI sI. Aus ivwcoN iewk- do gwlF dy bfry mYN afpxy ivcfr zf[ sfihb qIkr phuMcfAuxf cfhuMdf sI. ies krky mYN pMQk vIklI dy sMpfdk jI ƒ bynqI kIqI sI ik ieh myrI icwTI afpxI vYb sfeIt `qy lf dyx; pr pqf nhIN AuhnF iks mËbUrI krky myrI ies mfmUlI icwTI ƒ afpxI ‘vYb sfeIt’ `qy lfAux df hoNslf nhIN kIqf. so, hux afp jI ƒ ieh bynqI krdf hF ik qusIN myry ieh mfmUlI ivcfr afpxI vYb sfeIt `qy lfAux dI myhrbfnI kro qF ik zf[ sfihb qIkr gwl phuMc sky. ies leI afp jI df DMnvfdI hovFgf.

zf[ hrBjn isMG jI, vfihgurU jI kf Kflsf] vfihgurU jI kI Pqih]

zf[ sfihb, afp dI ies icwTI ivwc qF bhuq kuwJ iliKaf hY pr mYN afp jI nfl isrP do gwlF bfry hI ivcfr krnI hY.

afp ny iliKaf hY, “kflf Èbd df arQ qF swB ƒ pqf hY, Ërf aPgfnf df ivÈlyÈx vI kr leIey. aPgfnf Èbd dy muZly arQ- rOlf, Èor-Èrfbf; ivrlfp, Èok afid hn”. kI afp jI ƒ ieh igafn nhIN hY ik ‘kflf aPgfnf’ iewk ipMz df nFa hY? ies ipMz ivwc keI afdmI afp jI dy dfdf, ipAu, vwzy Brf, dfdI, mF, BYx, DI aqy keI hor irÈqydfrF dI brfbr Aumr dy lok ies ipMz ivwc rihMdy hn. afp jI ny jo gflHF AuhnF sfiraF ƒ kwZIaF hn kI afp vrgy gurmiq dy ivdvfn aqy XUnIvristI dy zfktr aKvfAux vfly iensfn ƒ soBdIaF hn? kI afp jI dwsx dI Kycl krogy ik ‘kflf aPgfnf’ vfsIaF ny afp jI df kI vgfiVaf hY? kI afp jI ƒ iensfnIaq qOr qy ‘kflf aPgfnf’ ipMz vfilaF qoN ies hrkq dI mfPI nhIN mMgxI cfhIdI? kI afp jI ny jo gflF pypr `qy ilwKky kwZIaF hn kI qusIN ieh sfrI ‘imwTI bolI’ Aus ipMz jf ky AuQoN dy vsnIkF sfhmxy bolx dI Ëuraq krogy?

dUsrI gwl, afp jI ny iliKaf hY ik, “ienHF ivcoN pihlf nfm hI iksy aisK df hY, ikAuNik jfiqvfd ivwc ivÈvfs rKx vflf koeI ivakqI kdy vI gurU df isK nhIN ho skdf”. kI afp jI df koeI vI irÈqydfr afpxy nFa nfl ‘goq’ (Family Name) nhIN ilKdf? jy ilKdf hovy iPr qF qusIN Aus nfl irÈqydfrI rwKdy ho jF nhIN? ikAuNik qusIN qF Ausƒ iswK hI nhIN smJdy? kI quhfzy pRIvfr dy irÈqy hryk brfdrI ivwc hoey hn?

afs krdf hF ik afp jI jvfb ËrUr dyvogy. hF swc myrI ivafkrx bhuq mfVI hY ies dIaF glqIaF kwZx qy afpxf kImqI smF Krfb nf krnf jI.

siqkfr sihq,

gurÈrn isMG ksyl

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(13/04/08)
bIrjoq isMG

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh !

A very warm Congratulations to all on Khalsa Sajna Divas. Lets promise ourselves to Read, Understand and Apply message of Guru Granth Sahib ji (Dasan Guruan Di Jyot). And for all who have not taken Khande-Di-Paul shall take Initiative this Vaisakhi to be Baptized.

All Sikhs should get United, to spread Guru Granth Sahib message all over Globe and celebrate 300 sala Gurgaddi Divas of Sahib Guru Granth Sahib in OCT, 2008.

Sikh Marg and Singh Sabha Canada has done great effort in Guru Granth Sahib Parchar and trying to update Sikhs all over on Current Sikh Affairs. It is really nice to see Updated Articles on Guru Granth Sahib Bani on Routine basis from S.Gurbachan Singh Thailand, Gurcharan Singh Kasel, Gurcharan Singh Brar, S.Jagtar Singh Jachak, S.Gurmeet Singh ji and many other Great Parcharaks of Guru Granth Sahib Philosphy.

It would be great if Service Providers can start Discussion Groups so that 'Sikh Youth' like us can input and start Forum threadz as majority Websites are controlled by Non-Followers of Sikh Rehat Maryada (basically Dera/Taksal/Jatha followers) who don't listen Truth as it is Bitter and they Restrict Freedom of Speech .

Few of the Vaisakhi Resolutions Sikh shall Adopt:

a)Guru Granth Sahib is complete Guru and have Highest Authority in Sikh Religion.

b)Guru Panth can be defined as 'Individuals' considering Guru Granth Sahib as complete and pass each Decision on Kaswatti/Touchstone of Guru Granth Sahib.

c)Those individuals who don't consider Guru Granth Sahib complete and need other Books/Granths(written by whosoever) to make Guru Granth Sahib 'Complete' in their aspects, [ as they still consider Guru Granth Sahib incomplete in ?Shakti? and ?Sex-Desire Control? ] can't be counted as 'Panths' but can be considered as Hypocrates ?

d)Let us Raise Voice to Replace Failed Pujari-Tola from Top Sikh Institues, and place Individuals who have both Religious as well Administrator Qualities and they shall have background in Study/Experience from Sikh Panthic Organisations who have been Preaching Sikh Rehat Maryada (SGPC-1945) and Guru Granth Sahib message only. Sikh Takhats shall stop placing Takhat Sewadars from Taksals/Sampardas/Jatha's who never followed and preahced Sikh Code but only Publicised their Dera Maryadas and make fun of Sikh Rehat Maryada (Sgpc-1945) in their Deras/Taksals ? And when they are placed Jathedars at Akal Takht ? How can they apply and preach same Sikh Rehat Maryada on Sikh Institues and Sikh Guru Ghars all over . Root Cause lies here only. 'PLacing Wrong People at Right Places'

e)Solve Long-Pending issues of Ragmala, Meat Issue, Dasam Granth by collective Sittings by listening voices from all Sides ? To say there is no Difference of Opinions is Joke in itself ? No one shall impose One side views and try to play Jathedars with False Tricks and make Hue & Cry and get Difference of Opinion individuals Ex-Communicated ? As they consider Danger from Opinions ? Sikhs are all Sons of Guru Granth Sahib and should resolve issues and ignore 'Individuals' responsible for creating Haterdness among others on some Sensitive Issues by able to get issue Fake Edicts ?

f)Base of Sikhism should be kept as -Guru Granth Sahib -Sikh Rehat Maryada (SGPC-1945) Even though there may b few limitations in Code that need to be corrected and brought more in line with Guru Granth Sahib by 'Panthic Representatives' but till any further change is made, we all need to accept and apply current version of Sikh Rehat Maryada (Sgpc-1945) in our Lives.

g)Principle of 'Eko' as being taught by Guru Granth Sahib, Sikhs shall also go by One Granth (Guru Granth Sahib) One Panth (Khalsa) One Maryada (Sikh Rehat Maryada-sgpc, 1945)

Regards,

Birjot Singh

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(12/04/08)
svwdI inAUjL vloN

itpxInumf

“gMgf sfgr bnfm pMj kkfr”

awj kwlH iswKF nUM gMgf sfgr df cMgf buKfr ciVHaf hoieaf hY. aqy gurduafiraF ivwc drÈn krfAux df islslf ËfrI hY. BfvyN gMgf sfgr df ieiqhfsk koeI pRmfx nhIN imldf, BfeI kfn isMG nfBf jI ny vI ‘mhfn koÈ’ ivwc ijQy gurU sfihb dIaF vsqF jF hiQafrF df iËkr kIqf hY. Aus ivwc vI gMgf sfgr df koeI bhuqf iËkr nhIN kIqf. keI purfxy ieiqhfskfrF ny isrP loty df iËkr kIqf hY. loty df iËkr rfeykot Èihr nfl sbMDq hY. jd gurU gibMd isMG jI ny rfey kwlHf ky Gr ivÈrfm kIqf hY. Aus vyly dI iewk mnGVHq khfxI hY jo ik gurmiq dI ksvwtI qy pUrI nhIN AuWqrdI aqy hY vI gYr-kudrqI, khfxI ies qrF hY ik gurU sfihb ny duwD pIx dI ieCf prgt kIqI. qF Aus vyly nF qF duwD hI sI nF koeI duwD dyx vflI mwJ sI, aqy nF hI duwD pfAux vflf koeI BfzF sI, qF gurU sfihb ny kol KVHy afdmI nUM ikhf ik Auh ijhVI afAusr (Bfv sUey aqy Joty dy sumyl qoN ibnF) JotI KVI hY Aus nUM co lvoN qF awgoN afdmI ny ikhf ik jI ieh qF afAusr hY duwD dy nhIN skdI qF gurU sfihb ny ikhf qUM QfpI mfr afpy duwD dyvygI. qF Aus ny awgoN ikhf ik afpxy kol qF duwD pfAux leI koeI BfzF vI nhIN qF gurU sfihb ny ieh lotf idwqf (gMgf sfgr) qoN awgo afdmI ny ikhf ik, ies ivwc df glIaF (Cyk) hn, qF gurU sfihb ny ikhf qUM JotI co, ies ivwc duwD zulHy gf nhIN. ieh hY gurU sfihb dy ienklfbI jIvn nfl joVI hfsohIxI mngVHq khfxI jo ik hY vI gYr-kudrqI.

keI ieiqhfs kfrF ny ieh vI iliKaf hY ik ieh iewk ierfnI imsqrI vloN iewk ivigafnk qknIk nfl iqafr kIqf hoieaf lotf (BfzF) hY aqy ieh hor vI keI sQfnf qy Kfs krky arb dy ÈyKF dy GrF ivwc mOjUd hY. ies loty nUM vI iksy ÈrDflU ny gurU sfihb nUM ByNt kIqf sI. duwD df nF zuwlxf koeI gYbI ÈkqI nhI ieh qF iewk ivigafnk qOr qy hvf dy dbfAu dI krfs ivDI hY. jo awj kwl bwicaF dy duwD pIx vflIaF boqlf ivwc vI mOjUd hY. ieMglYNz dI iewk kMpnI ny bwicaF dy duwD pIx vfsqy boqlf iqafr kIqIaF hn, jo ik amrIkf dy sfry storF qoN iml jFdIaF hn. AunF boqlF dy Qwly ivwc glIaF (Cyk) hn. AunF glIaF ivwc dI duwD nhIN zuwldf pr hvf krfs huMdI hY. ies boql nfl bwcf duwD sOKf pI skdf hY. pihlIaF boqlF ivwc jd bwcf duwD pIdF sI qF cuMgx smyN inwpl ipwck jFdI sI. kI ienF boqlF nUM vI mwQf tykxf ÈurU hovygf?

iswK kOm dy Boly px df hmyÈf Pfiedf hI AuTfieaf jFdf hY lMbf smF pihlf iewk slmf nf dI bIbI ny kMGy ivwc kys rwK ik ieh kihxf ÈurU kr idwqf ik ieh gurU goibMd isMG jI dy kys hn aqy ieh AuhI kys hn jo gurU sihb ny pIr buwDU LÈfh nUM ByNt kIqy sn. jdoN ik bfad ivwc pqf lwgf ik Auh aslI nhIN sI, jd nUM Auh pYsy iekwTy kr ky lY geI sI, 1974-75 dy lfgy igafnI ËYl isMG cwkI dy pOV lY ky af igaf sI ik ieh AuhI cwkI dy pOV hn jo gurU nfnk dyv jI ny bfbr dI Ëyl ivwc pIsI sI, aqy igafnI jYl isMG iswKF dIaF kfPI votF hfsl krn ivwc kfmXfb ho igaf sI. ipwCly smyN ivwc iewk sMq koeI purfxf kiCwhrf lY ky af igaf ik ieh vI gurU sfihb df hY. iksy nUM ibËns ivwc Gftf pY jfvy qF Auh iksy nfmvfr sMq nUM ieQy ilaf ik, iswKF qoN vwzI pwDr qy pYsy iekwTy krky afpxf Gftf-vfDf pUrf kr lYdf hY. ikMnf ku icr iswK kOm afpxI Aun lhfAudI rhygI?

gMgf sfgr (loty) df ijwQoN qwk suafl hY pihlF df gMgf sfgr Èbd hI iswK iPlfsPI nfl myl nhIN KFdf dUsrf jykr asIN mMn vI lYNdy hF ieh gurU sfihb nfl sbMiDq hY qF iPr ieh iksy imAUjIam Ëf qoÈf Kfnf ivwc ÈÈobq hoxf cfhIdf hY nf ik pYsy iekwTy krn leI vriqaf jfvy. aY gur iswKo agr qusIN gurU dI insfnI nUM ipafr krnf hI hY qF gurU sfihb dI insfnI ijs nUM asI gurU dI mohr vI kihMdy hF, Bfv pMj kkfrF nUM ipafr kroN ijnF qoN asIN bymuwK ho rhy hF. awj dy iswK dI dÈf ieh ho geI hY gMgf sfgr vrgy BFizaF nUM qF mwQy tyk irhf hY. pMj kkfr ijnF dI gurU goibMd isMG jI ny afp bKÈÈ kIqI hY AunF nUM mKOl kr irhf. jy koeI aMimRqDfrI isMG KVHf hovy qF Aus nUM mKOlIaf nËrIey nfl hI dyiKaf jFdf hY. kfÈ awj df iswK cMgy-mfVy dI prK kr sky.

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(11/04/08)
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ig: iekbfl isMG ƒ dsm gRMQ bfry jnqwk bihs leI cuxOqI

nvIN idwlI, 11/04/2008 : qÉq ptnf sfihb dy jwQydfr ig: iekbfl isMG vwloN sRI akfl qÉq sfihb dy sfbkf jwQydfr aqy pRiswD pRcfrk pRo: drÈn isMG ƒ iek mhIny bfad ‘qnÉfhIaf` krfr dyx dI DmkI df iswK avyarnYWs gruwp vwloN sÉq noits ilaf igaf hY. awj gruwp dy dPLqr ivwc hoeI iek hMgfmI mIitMg ivwc gruwp dy ahudydfrF ny ies ivÈy `qy ivcfr-vtFdrf kIqf aqy ies nqIjy `qy phuMcy ik ig: iekbfl isMG pMQ-ivroDI ÈkqIaF dy hQ-Toky bx ky pMQ-pRsq pRcfrkF ƒ ivvfdF ivwc AulJfAux aqy AunHF vwloN kIqy jf rhy gurmiq pRcfr ƒ rokx leI GtIaf ÈbdfvlI vfly Pqvy jfrI krn `qy AuqfrU ho gey hn.

ies mOky sR: gruwp dy vfeIs-cyarmYn sR: svrx isMG ny ikhf ik ig: iekbfl isMG dUijaF `qy doÈ lgfAux qoN pihlF afpxI pIVHI hyTF sotf Pyrx. AunHF ikhf ik ig: iekbfl isMG `qy syvfdfr nfl bdPYlI krn, afpxI pihlI pqnI ƒ qlfk idwqy ibnF dUjI aOrq nfl ivafh krn aqy qÉq sfihb dy cVHfvy ivwc Gply krn dy gMBIr afrop lwgdy rhy hn. kfƒnI qOr `qy Auh qÉq sfihb dy jwQydfr qF dUr, iek gRMQI vI nhIN hn. gruwp vwloN pRkfiÈq kIqy jFdy mYgËIn ‘ieMzIaf avyarnYWs` dy mfrc 2008 aMk ivwc AunHF `qy gMBIr ielËfm lgfey sn pr AunHF ny ies bfbq cuwp vwtI rwKI. pr Éud Auh pRo: drÈn isMG vrgy sqkfrq pRcfrk qoN spÈtIkrn mMg rhy hn aqy pRbMDkF ƒ AunHF dy kIrqn/pRcfr `qy pfbMdI lgfAux df afdyÈ dy rhy hn.

mIitMg dy aMq ivwc sR: srbjIq isMG ny ikhf ik ig: iekbfl isMG vrgy pujfrI kOm ƒ drpyÈ gMBIr msilaF ƒ sulfAux leI qF zwkf BMn ky dUhrf krn df kÈt nhIN krdy pr iswKF ƒ bRfhmxvfdI cflF qoN sucyq kr rhy pRcfrkF dIaF rfhF `c roVy atkfAux leI pwbF Bfr hoey rihMdy hn. AunHF doÈ lgfieaf ik aijhy pujfrI afr[aYs[aYs[ dy eyjMt dy ieÈfiraF `qy iswK kOm ƒ inwq nvyN BMbl-BUisaF `c pfeI rKdy hn. AunHF ikhf jykr ig: iekbfl isMG sMpUrn dsm gRMQ ƒ gurU goibMd isMG jI dI ikRq mMndy hn qF pRo: drÈn isMG iKlfPL Pqvy jfrI krn qoN pihlF Auh gruwp dy pRqIinDIaF nfl mIzIaf dI mOjUdgI ivwc, gurU gRMQ sfihb dy AupdyÈF dI rOÈnI ivwc KulHI bihs krky afpxf dfavf shI sfibq krn.

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(11/04/08)
gurmIq isMG astRylIaf

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Dear S. Makhan Singh jeeo,

Thanks for the updated Messages as on 10 April 2008.

1) You have aptly explained that Gurbaani from Japp Jee Sahib to Mundavani contained in the Guru Granth Sahib is the Supreme and Highest HukamNama/Reht for the Sikhs and we all should obey as ordained by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib before breathing his last on 7 October 1708.

In his Book: RehatNamay, Author late Prof. Piara Singh Padam had explained that all such Rehat Namas were written by some Sikhs at the end of 18th Century by using the names of those Sikhs, who were very close to Guru Gobind Singh Sahib simply to make them acceptable...

Retired Lecturer Author Harinder Singh Mehbood in his Book: "Sehje Rachio Khalsa" has also stated that past HukamNamas are not real, and are false.

The modern brahmins in the guise of Sikhs have been spreading falsehood and as such Sikhs should make use of their own Intellect in conformity with the Divine Knowledge reflected through the Guru Granth Sahib.

Amrit Initiation Ceremony by means of Khanday Dee Pahul is to take admission in Sikh religion as we do in Schools/Colleges or join any other service like Police, Military, etc. But for the purpose of further studies with a view to elevate our lives for attaining emancipation in life, we should read, comprehend and follow Gurbaani as the True Way of Sikh Life - Truthful Living as expected from a Sachiaar - Khalsa, an ideal and noble person.

2) In regard to another Email, I shall be grateful if you could kindly share my Article on Chaupayee, recently sent to you, though sufficient information is already available on Website: www.sikhmarg.com under the names of other Authors.

Thanks for your Seva.

Gurmit Singh (Australia)

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(11/04/08)
drsLn isMG

agY jfq n joru hYY agYY jIAu nvYY (GGS p-469)

IN THE HEREAFTER IS VALUED NEITHER CASTE NOR POWER

To my understanding some Sikh Scholar are misunderstanding Gurubani.They are saying there is no such thing called (SOUL) Jivatma, if they  are correct than there is no Paramatma, Hukam, no Karta .They are saying there is nothing after death of a body, that is the end of it. Some times, I feel that perhaps they are atheist Sikhs. Some of them are my friends; we are working together with SSI a charitable organisation opening Missionary centres in Punjab.

We had many discussions on this subject i.e.Atma, Soul, Spirit, and Matter, They are adamant.

In my quest to find answers from (GGS) Gurubani in English and Punjabi and I found 44 times Guru jee has used this word agYY this means in the hereafter.

1-nFnk jy ko apo jFxYY agYY gieaf n sOhy---p 5

2-agYY gieaF jFxaYY ivx nFvy vykfr-------p 16

3-agYYY sfhu sujFn hYY lYYsI vsq smfil-----p 22

4-ijnI sqgurU syivaf iqn agYY imilaf QFA –p 43

5-aYYQYY agYY hir nfm sKfeI-------------p 230

6-mnmuK mugD n cyqih nfhI agY gieaf pCuqfvy –p 441

7-agY krxI ikrq vfcIa bih lyKf kr smJfieaf—p 464

8-agYY jfq nf jor hYYY agYY jIAu nvy--------------469

9-agYY nfA jfq nf jiesI mnmuK duKu Kfqf--------p 514

10-mnmuK agYY lyKf mSgIaf bhuqI hovy mfr--------p 1280

All the other pages are----469-470-472-450-16-556-581-591-595-647-649-730-734-762-851-950-952-960-994-1010-1016-1049-1063-1094-1238-1240-1280-1284—1383-851.

To support my research there is another word sbd  used by Guru jee in GGS that is afgYY which is used about 59 times. Please read it here below.

1-afgY sh Bfvf ik n Bfvf---p 357

2-afgY suKu guir dIaf-------p 626

3-afgY suKu pfCyY suKu---------p 609

4-afgY suKu myry mIqf---------p 629

5-afgY srpr jfxf--------   p 579

6-afgY hukmu n clY-------     p 579

7-afgYY hI qy sBu ikCu--------p 383

8-agfhf kU qRfiG ipCf, Pyir n muhzVf---p 1096

9-afgY kAu ikCu qulhf bFDhu ikaf Brvfsf Dn kf—p 1253

10-afgYY drgih kfm n afvY CuiT clY aiBmfnI—p 379

All the other pages are from GGS -302-211-255-1063-891-216-893-52-866-533-871-533-391-1010-151-829-1238-62-199-951-214-1159-1029-13-28-45-107-112-116—143—151-155-205-214-216-349.

As I understand Guru Bani which is telling us to be care full you are not alone some system is watching us, observing us, it is invisible, it is silent it is a eye in the sky nothing is out of reach for this kind of largest telescope in the universe it can see us as well as read our minds.We should tell our cleaver minds to become a Gurmukh nothing more nothing less otherwise get ready for Divine order (Hukam). Gurmukh will know what kind of Divine order he will receive at the end of his life while living in his body. Munmukh will be fooling them until the last breath of their lives than it will be too late.

Darshan Singh

9054502029

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(10/04/08)
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pRo[ drÈn isMG qlb

aMimRqsr/qlivMdr buwtr

qÉq sRI ptnf sfihb dy jQydfr igafnI iekbfl isMG ny iek vfrI iPr qYÈ `c afAuNidaF akfl qÉq dy sfbkf jQydfr pRo[ drÈn isMG ƒ dsm gRMQ dI ivroDqf krn dy doÈ ivc 10 meI ƒ qÉq sRI ptnf sfihb ivKy qlb kIqf hY.

pRYs ƒ jfrI kIqy gey hukmnfmy dI kfpI rfhIN igafnI iekbfl isMG ny ikhf ik iksy vI ivakqI ƒ dsm gRMQ df inrfdr krn df aiDkfr nhIN qy iPr akfl qÉq dy sfbkf jQydfr pRo[ drÈn isMG vrgf ies pivwqr gRMQ dI aflocnf krdf hY qF ieh kdficq brdfÈq nhIN kIqf jfvygf. AunHF ikhf ik awj qÉq sfihb qy pMj ipafiraF dI iek iekwqrqf hoeI, ijs ivc srbsMmqI nfl PYslf krky pRo[ drÈn isMG ƒ 10 meI ƒ qÉq sRI ptnf sfihb ivKy pMj ipafiraF dy snmuwK pyÈ hox dy afdyÈ jfrI kIqy gey hn. AunHF ikhf ik pyÈ nf hox dI sUrq ivc iekqrÌf kfrvfeI kr idwqI jfvygI. AunHF ikhf ik pMj ipafiraF dI 13 apRYl vfly ivsfKI vfly idn muV iekwqrqf hovygI, ijs ivc hor keI pMQk mOky ivcfry jfxgy.

(not:- iekbfl isMG dy jIvn bfry jfxkfrI jo ik "ieMzIaf avyarnYWs" dy mfrc aMk ivc CpI sI Aus nUM pVHn leI ieWQy kilk kro jI. ieh pI: zI: aYWP: PormYt ivc hY)

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(10/04/08)
mnjIq isMG

Some Doubts about Rehatnamas Generally Quoted by our Preachers

Because of Vaisakhi Purb nearby, all Guru Ghars are very busy in Amrit Parchar. Some Guru Ghars have special programs. Efforts are being done by well wishers of Panth to bring as many people as possible into the khalsa Panth fold.

Some preachers are overzealous in this effort and to prove their points, they are quoting from Gurbani as well as other sources like "Rehatnamas". Some of these quotes have created doubts in my mind that is why I am writing this letter to you. I request you to please help me in clearing these doubts by writing a few lines or suggesting me some articles/books already available on this subject. Alternatively, any scholar reading my letter can help me in clearing my doubts by writing a well searched article on the subject.

1. Some preachers in their effort to do Amrit Parchar interpret Gurbani word "NIGURA" (i.e. a person without any Guru) as a person who has not part taken Amrit. They condemn non-Amritdhari people with all sorts of names as are mentioned in Holy Scripture for the "NIGURAS". Is it correct and justified? Is it justified to condemn a big section of "SANGAT" like this?

2. Other preachers in their effort to prove their point quote from "REHATNAMAS". Recently, I heard a preacher saying:

"He who keeps long hair without partaking Pahul is a hypocrite or deceiver and dumb"

I checked this quote. I got a book written by Mr. Piara Singh Padam named "Rehatnamein". According to this book, these lines are from Rehatnama written by Mr. Sahib Singh. I read this Rehatnama and found many things which are not in line with Sikh Philosophy. For example:

a. (Guru says) If you keep hair or do not keep hair, I do not care. I care only if you love me.

b. A Sikh should carry out "Saraadh" for his dead ancestors performed through Brahmin Sikh only.

c. A Sikh should do "puja" and "daan" during Solar Eclipse.

d. A Sikh who will read "Muktinama" written by this author and bathe at Muktsar Sarovar will get "mukti".

e.

3. I heard another preacher saying:

"Hooka kutha charas tamakoo, Ganja topi _____ khakoo

Inki aur na kabhu dekhe, rehatwant so sikh bisekhe"

I checked this quotation in the same book as mentioned above. This couplet is from "Rehatnama Desa Singh". Mr. Desa Singh writes next stanza as:

"A Sikh can take small amount of hemp (Bhang) and opium without any fear, but he should not take larger amounts and become addicted"

In another couplet, he writes:

"When going to battle-field, Sikh should consume "Madira" or hard liquor, but in peace times, he should not look at it"

4. I read other Rehatnamas also like by Bhai Nand Lal, Bhai Prehlad Singh etc. They preach many things which do not go in line with what is generally considered as Sikh Philosophy not to talk of teachings of Holy Guru Granth Sahib. Following are few things mentioned in these Rehatnamas:

a. He who does not bathe with cold water is tankhayia.

b. He who consumes goat or sheep milk is tankhayia.

c. He who touches "gadha" (donkey or Hooka?) is tankhayia

I request you to please help me in clarifying my doubts about the above mentioned issues.

Best regards,

Manjit Singh

(aslI rihqnfmf qF gurbfxI hY. jo vI ilKq gurbfxI dI ksvwtI qy pUrI nf AuqrdI hovy Auh mMnxXog nhIN, BfvyN Auh iksy vI nfm Qwly pRclq ikAuN nf hovy. aMimRq qF pRmfqmf df nfm hY aqy Auh hr iensfn dy aMdr hY. ies aMimRq nUM sLbd df zol bxf ky aMdroN kwZ ky pIxf hY. isWKI ivc dfKly leI phul dI mrXfdf hY. ieh gurbfxI anusfr jIvn jIAux leI ieh iek pRx hY. isWK Drm smuwcI mnuwKqf df Drm hY aqy jo vI iensfn iek akfl purK nUM sB df krqf mMndf hY aqy sB ivc Aus dI hI joq nUM dyKdf hY aqy iksy nfl vI rMg, rUp, jfq pfq aqy ilMg dy aDfr qy nPrq nhIN krdf qF smJ lE ik Auh isWK Drm anusfr clx dI koisLsL kr irhf hY. jo dUsiraF pRqI nPrq krdf hY aqy gflHF vrgI BfsLf vrqdf hY Auh BfvyN inwq hI aMimRq Ckdf qy CkfAuNdf hovy, ikwzf vI vwzf sMq mhMq ikAuN nf hovy aqy aijhy aisWKI kfry krn vfly nUM gurU vflf nhIN ikhf skdf-sMpfdk)

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(10/04/08)
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(09/04/08)
avqfr isMG imsLnrI aqy sfQI

Bomy ipMz ivKy Èrfb nUM pRÈfd kih ky vrqfAux ivruwD ig[ jgqfr isMG jfck aqy ig[ kyvl isMG vloN ley stYNz dI ivdyÈI imÈnrIaF, ivdvfnF aqy lyKkF vloN pUrn hmfieq

(qrlocn isMG dupflpur/avqfr isMG imÈnrI) nÈf qF koeI vI srIr vfsqy cMgf nhIN BfvyN qMbfkU, crs, qfVI, BuwkI aPIm, suwKf smYk jF Èrfb afid hovy. keI gRMQ vI niÈaF df pRcfr krdy hn ijvyN ik aKOqI dsm gRMQ. gurU gRMQ sfihb jI ivKy qF niÈaF nUM miq mfrn vfly ikhf igaf hY-ijiq pIqY miq dUir hoey brl pvY ivic afie] afpxf prfieaf nf pCfxhI KsmoN Dwky Kfie] JUTf mid mUl nf pIceI jy kf pfr vsfey] rihqnfimaF ivKy vI drj hY ik-hukf kuwTf crs qmfkU] gFjf topI qfVI KfkU] …[ ien kI aOr nf kbhUM dyKY] rihqvfn so isMG bÈyKY] pr Esy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy pRkfÈ asQfn qy Èrfb-suwKf afidk nUM pRÈfd kih ky vrqfieaf jfvy qF ies qoN vwzI byadbI hor kI ho skdI hY. kih jFdy smuwcy sMqF sfDF vloN Jtkf mIt dI qF awzIaF AuWcIaF krky aqy sMG pfV ky ivroDqf kIqI jFdI hY jo isMG Bojn hY pr niÈaF vwl koeI iDaFn nhIN idwqf jFdf. sRomxI kmytI, tksflF aqy gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytIaF nUM cwpxI c’ nwk zob lYxf cfhIdf hY ijnHF dy sfhmxy ieh sB kuwJ ho irhf hY jy Dfrimk asQFn hI nÈy vrqfAuxgy qF iPr bfkI asQFnF dI kI hflq hovygI! so kOm nUM niÈaF, PjUl dy krmkFzF, idKfvy ByK aqy JUTIaF ÈohrqF Cwz ky gurU dy dwsy mfrg qy hI cwlxf cfhIdf hY nF ik aKOqI jQydfrF dy jo kOm nUM zyiraF vwl Dkyl rhy hn. dyKo iekwlf sOdf sfD srsy vflf jy grIbF dI mdd krky lwKF nUM afpxy mgr lf skdf hY qF kI ijs pMQ kol ÈRomxI kmytI vrgI sMsQf hovy ijs kol vwzy-vwzy gurduafiraF df pRbMD hovy aqy lwKF kroVF df bjt hovy kI Auh nhIN aYsf kr skdI? qKqF qoN isrP iswK ivdvfnF nUM zrfieaf Dmkfieaf jFdf hY pr pMQ ivroDI pRcfr krn vfly sfDF aqy nÈy vMzx vfly aKOqI lIzrF qoN sropy lY ky AunHF nUM snmfnq kIqf jFdf hY. hux imÈnrIaF aqy spoksmYn dy pRcfr sdkf kOm ivwc jfgRqI af rhI hY ijs sdkf ig[ jgqfr isMG jfck vrgy ivdvfn vI mYdfn ivwc inwqr afey hn. so asIN smuwcy ivdyÈI imÈnrI, isMG sBf dy mYbr aqy pMQ drdI ig[ jfck jI aqy ig[ kyvl isMG jI dy ies stYNz dI hmfieq krdy hF.

gurU pMQ dy syvk

pMQk ivdvfn sR[ iqrlocn isMG dupflpur (sfbkf mYNbr ÈRomxI kmytI) dl Éflsf alfieMs dy pRDfn Bf[ prmjIq isMG dfKf, gurU gRMQ pRcfr imsn afP (XU[ aYs[ ey) sMsQf dy BfeI avqfr isMG imÈnrI-bIbI hrismrq kOr KfÜsf, sR primMdr isMG pRvfnf zf[ gurmIq isMG brsfl, zf[ hrmn isMG aqy sfQI (kYlyPornIaF) ieMtRnYÈnl isMG sBf (knyzf XUint) dy sR[ gurcrn isMG ijAux vflf aqy sfQI (knyzf) ieMtRnYÈnl isMG sBf (amrIkf XUint) dy sR[ hrdyv isMG Èyrigwl aqy sfQI, gurmiq pRsfr sBf sYkrfmYNto dy pRo[ mwKx isMG, sR[ hfkm isMG aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) gurmiq imÈnrI srkl (kYlyPornIaF) dy sR[ igafn isMG, srbjIq isMG sMDU aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) byby nfnkI sBf (sYkrfmYNto) dy sR[ kyhr isMG-bIbI surjIq kOr aqy sfQI (sYkrfmYNto) sihq sBf sYkrfmYNto dy bIbI mnjIq kOr aqy sihXogI (sYkrfmYNto) bfbf nMd isMG aqy mfstr gurbcn isMG (smfj syvk) ig[ bKÈIÈ isMG sfbkf hYWz gRMQI (rIno-nyvfzf) Bf[ aMimRqpfl isMG kQfvfck pRcfrk, aqy sfQI (cldf vhIr dl) sR[ jsbIr isMG sfbkf ipMsIpl sfihbËfdf juJfr isMG gurmiq imÈnrI kflj ropV, vfeIs ipRMsIpl Bf[ hrBjn isMG aqy ig[ amrjIq isMG imÈnrI (amrIkf) bfbf ipafrf isMG sfbkf pRoPYsr iswK imÈnrI kflj bIbIaF (amrIkf) Bf[ blivMdr isMG imÈnrI, sR blbIr isMG aqy sfQI (Pirjno imÈnrI srkl) Bf[ suKivMdr isMG imÈnrI, sR blivMdr isMG (bfltImor) sR[ iekbfl isMG imÈnrI, gurmIq isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI (aYl[ ey) sR[ blkfr isMG imÈnrI aqy sfQI (imÈnrI srkl-ibkrsPIlz)

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(08/04/08)
sMqoK isMG afstRylIaf

Satkarit Purewal Sahib Ji

Writing this after long time and from Brussel because I left Sydney more than tow month ago; During my stay for one last month? I, by the Kirpa of Satguru Ji managed to publish my two books. They are being released in UK in this month. The SGPC couldn’t change that yet but Sardar Brar Sahib Ji done that.

Here is one article for Sikh Marg.

I read the letter Of S. Gurcharan Singh Ji Brar on this Sikh Marg.

When I saw in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, under the influence of Late Bhai Joginder Singh talwara Ji, SGPC changed the sarup of 'Satnamu'  siqnamu) in to 'Sati Namu', (siq nwmu)  then I thought they may change 'Waheguru' (vwih gurU) into 'Wahe Guru' any time.

If some body thinks it is my Bhull then Khima in advance.

Santokh Singh

Australia

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(05/04/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Waheguru jee ka Khalsa  Waheguru jee kee Fateh

Today only I have a chance to read Article: "Shree Guru Granth Sahib Dee Sampaadann - Kalaa Tey Kasvatti" by Giani Jagtar Singh jee Jachak, by clicking www.sikhmarg.com

Similar views have also been expressed by late Dr Sahib Singh and several other Sikh Scholars. But it is not clear why are we prefixing "Shree or Sri ?" Guru Granth Sahib should be OK.

I don't know whether I have missed, there are no comments in respect of "Raag Mala". I reckon that Guru Granth Sahib ends with Mundavani, and that Raag Mala was neither included by Guru Arjan Sahib nor by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib. Moreover, it also cannot be considered Mala of all (31) Raags as Nine Raags do not figure there. Hence, it could have been stated that Raag Mala is not Baani and should not be printed.

{Please note I have nothing to do with akj or any other cult)

Gurmit Singh (Sydney)

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(05/04/08)
spoksmYn ivcoN iek KLbr

hux qÉqF aqy ‘hukmnfimaF’ vfly vI sMg lfh ky roËfnf spoksmYn ÉrId ky pVHdy ny!

cMzIgVH 5 apRYl, 2008 (spoksmYn ibAUro): jlMDr dy ajIq aÉbfr dy brijMdr isMG ny DONs nfl do-ZfeI sfl pihlF ‘roËfnf spoksmYn’ ivruD ijnHF ‘jQydfrF’ koloN ‘hukmnfmy’ jfrI krvfey sn, AunHF nUM vI awj mMnxf pY irhf hY ik AunHF koloN Êlq kMm krvf ilaf igaf sI qy brijMdr isMG ny apxy vpfrk ihqF nUM bcfAux dy afhr ivc, apxI aÉbfr dI DONs dy ky, ÈRomxI kmytI aqy ‘jQydfrF’ nUM apxy mksd leI vrq ilaf sI. iesy leI Auh cMgI soc vfly bMidaF nUM imlx ligaF aksr kihMdy rihMdy hn ik "ijhVI ÊlqI ho geI sI, Aus nUM TIk krn df koeI rfh qusI hI suJfAu ijs nfl sfzI vI hyTI nf hovy qy dUjI iDr nUM vI apxy stYNz nUM Cwzx leI nf kihxf pvy." 1 dsMbr, 2005 nUM ajIq dy brijMdr isMG vloN Dwky nfl krvfeI geI ÊlqI nUM ‘jQydfr’ qy ‘qÉq’ vI ikMnf Êlq smJdy hn, ies df sbUq ieQy qÉq scKMz sRI hËUr sfihb abcl ngr dy pYz `qy roËfnf spoksmYn dy sMpfdk nUM ilKI icwTI aqy aÉbfr lgvfAux leI Byjy 1100 rupey dy cMdy qoN pqf lwg skdf hY. icwTI aqy bYNk zrfÌt, duhF dI Ìoto-kfpI Aupr idqI geI hY. qÉq hËUr sfihb vfly iekwly hI nhIN, sfry qÉqF dy ‘jQydfr’ svyry swB qoN pihlF ‘spoksmYn’ hI pVHdy hn qy Aucycy qOr `qy mMgvfAuNdy hn. sfry hI KulH ky mn cuwky hn ik ‘ajIq’ dy aYzItr ny AunHF nUM vrq ky vwzf pfp AunHF koloN krvfieaf sI. hux pMjF `coN koeI iewk vI ieh kihx nUM iqafr nhIN huMdf ik roËfnf spoksmYn iewk ‘pMQ ivroDI’ aÉbfr hY - isvfey brijMdr isMG dy ‘ajIq’ aÉbfr dy. brijMdr isMG ikAuN swc nUM pRvfn nhIN krdf? ikAuNik Aus ny apxy vpfrk ihqF nUM bcfAux leI hI qF ‘roËfnf spoksmYn’ nfl pfp kmfieaf sI. Aus nUM zr hY ik jy ‘roËfnf spoksmYn’ kl nUM ‘hukmnfmy’ qoN afËfd ho igaf qF Aus df kI bxygf? isafxy lokF df kihxf hY ik ‘spoksmYn’ qF pihlF hI hukmnfimaF dI bMdÈ `coN afËfd ho cuwkf hY qy afm lokF dy nfl nfl hux, ‘hukmnfmy’ jfrI krn vfly jQydfrF ny vI sMg lfh ky ies dI qfrIÌ krnI ÈurU kr idqI hY, BfvyN ik ajy AunHF ivwc eynI ihMmq nhIN af rhI ik apxI ÊlqI nUM KulH ky mMn lYx qy vfps lY lYx. ienHF isafxy lokF df kihxf hY ik brijMdr isMG nUM vI kMD `qy iliKaf pVH lYxf cfhIdf hY qy sfAUaF vflf vqIrf apxf ky, spoksmYn df ivroD bMd kr dyxf cfhIdf hY ikAuNik Auh pihlF hI bfËI hfr cuwkf hY aqy ivroD nUM hor jfrI rwK ky, mUMh ivKfx jogf vI nhIN rih jfeygf. Aus nUM hor kuwJ nhIN qF qÉq scKMz sRI hËUr sfihb dI AupRokq icwTI qoN hI kuwJ isK lYxf cfhIdf hY. 21vIN sdI ivc, iewk aÉbfr dy mflkF vloN dUjI nvIN aÉbfr df rfh rokx dI ieh bVI GtIaf imsfl hY qy Éud ‘hukmnfmy’ jfrI krn vfly vI cfhux lwg pey hn ik ijvyN vI hovy, jQydfrF dI ÊlqI dI hor sËf ‘akfl qÉq’ nUM nf idvfeI jfvy.

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(03/04/08)
gurpRIq isMG smrf

Dear Editor, Few days back, a press release about the book "Ik Ooo" by Giani Jagtar Singh ji Jachak was published on your website. But there is no information about how and from where that book can be obtained in Canada. If the person who shared this news or any other person can also share the above required information. I will be grateful.

Regards, Gurpreet Singh Sumra Brampton, Canada

(sfzy iKafl muqfbk ijhVy Auhnf dy lyK ‘isWK mfrg’ qy Cp cuwky hn, Auhnf lyKF nUM hI ikqfbI rUp idWqf hY. hor jfxkfrI Auhnf nUM puwC ky ‘isWK mfrg’ qy pf idWqI jfvygI-sMpfdk)

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(02/04/08)
ajIq isMG torFto

pRYs rIport

(2 aprYl 2008, torFto)

BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst tFzf AuVmuV anykF hI aOkVF dy bfvjUd sVk durGtnf dy iÈkfr ivakqIaF vfsqy iewk aihm vrdfn.

ijs smfj ivwc asIN rih rhy hF ivwc mnuwKqf dI BlfeI dy nyk kMmf ivwc Xogdfn pfAux dy Audwm Auprfly krnF swcmuwc hI swc dy mfrg dy pFDIaF dI iewk Kfs inÈfnI huMdI hY. awj bhuqfq ivwc vyKx nUM iml irhf hY ik loVvMdF dI syvf aqy Drm krm dy kMmF dy aDfr qy iekwTf kIqf igaf PMz swc dy mfrg qoN kohF dUr jf ky Krc ho irhf hY aqy iswty vjoN awj dI jvfnI iBafnk niÈaF ivwc glqfn ho ky swcy mfrg qoN Btk rhI hY. kfrn kI hY? pMjfb jF Bfrq aMdr qF ies df kfrn kuwJ ieMJ jfpdf hY ik jo vI ivakqI jF sMsQf afpxI quwC buwDI muqfibk pUrn iemfndfrI aqy ivÈvfÈ dI ksvwtI qy syvf ismrn dy Auprfly krn leI qwqpr huMdI hY nUM iksy nf iksy rUp ivwc srkfrI jF gYrsrkfrI Ëulm jF qÈwdd df sfhmxf krnf pYdf hY. pr DMnqf dy Xog huMdIaF hn aijhIaF sMsQfvF jF ivakqI jo pUrI dlyrI nfl aijhy qÈwdd df zt ky mukfblf krdIaF hn aqy Pqih hfsl krdIaF hn.

aijhf hI iewk ivÈyÈ Auprflf tFzf AuVmuV, iËlHf huiÈafrpur, pMjfb ivKy BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst vloN kIqf jf irhf hY. awj gurU gRMQ sfihb jI dy 300 sflF gurgwdI idvs mnfAuNdy hoey asIN ieh zMky dI cot nfl kih skdy hF ik BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst dI tIm awj dI jvfnI nUM iBafnk niÈaF dI mfr qoN bcfAux vfsqy anykF hI sPl Auprfly kr rhI hY. BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst tFzf AuVmuV jo julfeI 1990 ivwc hoNd ivwc afieaf sI awj kOVy swc dy mfrg qy sPl pulfNGf puwtdf hoieaf dunIaF Br dIaF AuhnF mhfn sMsQfvF ivwc Èfml hY jo iksy jfq, pfq, Drm afidk dy Byd Bfv jF ivqkry qoN Aupr AuT ky isrP mnuwKqf dI syvf krdIaF hn. BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst dy cyarmYn srdfr Aujl isMG iewk bhuq hI iemfndfr aqy dlyr iensfn hn. afp jI sfl 1990 ivwc pMjfb srkfr pfsoN bqOr izvIjnl soafiel kMjrvyÈn aPsr irtfier hoey aqy irtfiermYt AuprMq afpxI Drm pqnI aqy ieklOqy pOqry bUtf isMG nfl iml ky swcI suwcI ikrq krn dy nfl nfl syvf ismrn dy kfrjF ivwc jut gey aqy hux qwk anykF hI byshfiraF nUM sMsfrk aqy aiDafqmk cfnx dyx vfsqy sMGrÈ kr rhy hn. tFzy nËdIk jlMDr pTfnkot rfÈtrI mfrg qy agr koeI vI aYksIzYNt ho jFdf hY qF trst dy vlMtIar Pon kfl afAux jF pqf lwgx AuprMq mobfeIl aYNbUlYNs lY ik ibjlI dI qrHF loVvMd mnuwKF dI syvf ivwc jf hfjr huMdy hn. trst dy nOjvfn syvfdrF dy jQydfr srdfr divMdr isMG mUnk klF vfly aqy muwK vlMtIar srdfr amrjIq isMG dfrfpur vfly aMimRqDfrI isMG hn aqy ieh anykF hI nOjvfnF nUM afpxI tIm ivwc Èfml kr ky niÈaF dI mfr qoN sucyq kr rhy hn aqy aijhy progrfm AulIkx dy sPl Auprfly kr rhy hn ijs nfl pMjfb dI jvfnI nUM afpxy axmol iswK ivrsy qoN jfxU krvfieaf jf sky. BfeI GneIaf cYrItybl trst bfry vDyry jfxkfrI lYx vfsqy kYnyzf ivwc Pon nMbr 416-301-8114 qy sMprk kIqf jf skdf hY jF trst dI vYbsfeIt www.charityghanaiya.com vyKI jf skdI hY.

awj sfrI dunIaF awgy iewk aihm svfl hY ik sMsfr aMdr ÈfqI df vfqfvrx ikvyN pYdf hovy? agr gurU kf iswK hMBlf mfry qF Auh sMsfr aMdr ÈFqI Biraf vfqfvrx kfiem krn ivwc ivÈyÈ Xogdfn pf skdf hY. ikAuNik gurU gRMQ sfihb jI pfsoN idÈf pRfpq krn vflf mnuwK hmyÈF swc dy mfrg qy cldf hY. ijwQy swc hovygf AuWQy ÈFqI df vfqfvrx kfiem hoxf suBfivk hI hY. Auprokq gurU ky iswKF vloN kIqy gey Auprfly swcmuwc hI bhuq hI ÈlfGfXog AuWdm hn. afAu awj asIN sfry ies sMsfirk ÈFqI ivwc pIzI sFJ pfAux vfsqy gurU gRMQ sfihb jI df 300 sflF gurgwdI idvs mnfAuNdy hoey aijhy anykF hI hor syvf aqy ismrn dy kfrjF ivwc Xogdfn pfeIey. AumId hY ik BivwK ivwc sfzIaF smfijk aqy Dfrimk sMsQfvF ies ivÈy qy jrUr ivcfr krngIaF.

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(01/04/08)
gurmIq isMG afstRylIaf

Dear Dr. Hakam Singh Jee (USA),

 Waheguru jee ka Khalsa  Waheguru jee kee Fateh

I am truly grateful to you for your Article: Dasam Granth Dee Vashatviktaa as shared through: www.sikhmarg.com

Earlier, Dr. Jasbir Singh Mann (USA) has also explained the background of this controversial mythical literature.

Several persons in Punjab and India have also been raising their voice about the authenticity of BN/DG but SGPC and its goluck paid servants have not been listening under the influence of akj /damdami taksaalis / deravaad /RSS/BJP.

But I don't know why Institute of Sikh Studies (IOSS) is silent as if they have nothing to do ?

Although, you have already explained all the aspects, please advise me if draft attachment could be shared with other well-wishers of the Guru Panth here locally.

Thanks for your guidance,

Gurmit Singh (Sydney, Australia)  

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(31/03/08)
gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn

jsbIr isMG astrylIaf jI! vfih gurU jI kf kflsf, vfih gurU jI Pqih.

qusIN afpxI icwTI ivwc imÈnrIaF dy qrkÈIlF nfl sMbMDF bfry iglf Ëfhr kIqf hY ho skdf hY qusIN TIk hovo. qusIN vDIaf imÈnrI bxfAux dI gwl kIqI hY. kI qusIN awj qk vDIaf imsLnrI bxfAux ivwc koeI shfieqf kIqI hY? srIrk qOr qy jf mfiek qOr qy iksy imÈnrI kflj dI mwdd kIqI hY? jy nhI qF isrP icwTIaF ilKx nfl ieh mslf hwl hox vflf nhI.

qrkÈIÜF nUM, ‘Drm iewk aPIm hY’ kih ky gurbfxI qoN dUr kr idwqf igaf. Auh gurU isDFq qoN iblkul dUr ho gey. afpxy afp nUM DrmI aKvfAux vfly lok lMmy Jwgy pf ky, nMgIaF lwqF rwK ky, zyZ ku jf do ieMc df cOVf gfqrf pf ky aqy gol pwg bMn ky iswK Drm dy lMmy cOVy Tykydfr bx gey. pVHy ilKy qy smJdfr lokF nUM nfsqk kih kih ky ieh lok durkfrn lwg pey jo ieh srfsr glq hoieaf.

qkÈIl, lokF nUM vihmF BrmF ivcoN bfhr kwZdy hn, qy gurUbfxI vI. aKOqI DrmI, sMq-sfD vr-srfp nUM iswK Drm ivwc vfVdy hn jdoN ik qrkÈIl qy gurUbfxI vr-srfp nUM jVoN rwd krdI hY. dmdmI tksfl gurU gRMQ sfihb nUM Bog lvfAuNdI hY jdoN ik gurUbfxI df Purmfx hY:

Bfqu pihiq aru lfpsI, krkrf kfsfru] Bognhfry Boigaf, iesu mUriq ky muK Cfru] 4] mfilin BUlI jgu Bulfnf, hm Bulfny nfih] khu kbIr hm rfm rfKy, ik®pf kir hir rfie] 5] 1] 14] {pMnf 479}

jy kr iswK Drm ivcoN vr-srfp nUM kwZ idwqf jfvy qF iksy sfD-sMq dI loV hI nhI rih jFdI, jo ik iswK isDFq muqfbk iblkul TIk hY. iPr luwt-Ksuwt df mfmlf Kqm ho skdf hY. pr nhI, ies qoN bgYr iswKI dI dukfndfrI nhI cldI qy afm lok luwty hI sUq afAuNdy hn ieh iewk khfvwq hY. ho irhf hY.

mYN huxy huxy pMjfb jf ky afieaf hF qy ijhVy ijhVy qrkÈIlF nfl myl imlfp hoieaf hY AunHF qoN iehI pqf lwigaf ik Auh lok gurUbfxI qoN iblkul kory hn pr mYN iPr vI dfhvy nfl ieh kih skdf hF ik Auh lok iewkf duwkf glqIaF nUM Cwz ky iswK Drm dy aKOqI jQydfrF nfloN vI vDIaf hn qy iswKI asUlF qy pihrf idMdy hn. Auh hwk swc qy mrn qk pihrf idMdy hn. biTMzf iËlf, mihl klF ivwc mfrI geI nOjvfn lVkI df kql kys jwg jfhr hY qy ies ivwc agFh vDU jwQybMdIaF ny mUhry lwg ky hI ipMz dy lMbrdfrF nUM sjf dvfeI sI qy ZINZsy horIN lMbrdfrF vfly pfsy KVy sn. iehI kfrn hY ik pRo[ Gwgf ny qrkÈIlF dy hwk ivwc ibafn dfg idwqf. ijhVIaF ikqfbF dy hwk ivwc ibafn dfigaf igaf hY Auh ikqfbF mnuwKqf nUM kurfhy qoN rfhy pfAuNdIaF hn qy ÈfeId qusIN pVHIaF hI nf hox.

sfry gurU sfihbfn sfkqF kol gey, corF zfkUaf qy DfVveIaf kol gey qy AunHF ny AunHF nUM suDfiraf. suDry hoey lokF kol jfx df kI Pfiedf. iswK Drm df muK mMqv hI lok BlfeI hY. kbIr sfkq sMgu n kIjIaY, dUrih jfeIaY Bfig] bfsnu kfro prsIaY, qAu kCu lfgY dfgu] 131] {pMnf 1371} pr ies pMgqI ivwc afey ‘sfkq’ df mqlb iksy mnuwKI jIv qoN nhI. ies krky qusIN iesdI hor ivcfr krnI qy afpF afpxI crcf awgy jfrI rwKFgy.

guru pMQ df dfs,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn, kYnyzf.

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zf[ gurdyv isMG iswDU jI! vfih guru jI kf Kflsf, vfih guru jI kI Pqih.

isMG sBf kYnyzf, kYnyzf ivwc hI hY. qusIN sfrI iswK jnqf nUM bVf vwzf hnorf mfiraf hY aqy ieh vI puiCaf hY ik isMG sBf kYnyzf ikwQy hY. hr sMsQf df afpxf afpxf pRogrfm AulIikaf huMdf hY qy Auh ssMQf Aus anusfr kMm krdI hY. sfzy kol koeI gurduafry dI golk nhI ijs ivcoN asIN afpxI mrjI nfl DMn kwZ ky afpxI qy iksy dI injI jyb ivwc pf dyeIey. iews dy bfvjUd vI ipCly sfl iswK Drm dy pRcfr leI pMjfb dy 40 ipMzF ivwc pRcfrk Byjy gey qy ieh imsnrI awj pMjfb dy 300 ipMzF ivwc pRcfr kr rhy hn. Krcf keI lwKF rupY hY ijhVf ies ssMQf dy mYNbrF ny afpxI afpxI injI jyb ivcoN idwqf hY. hornF nUM hnorf nf mfiraf huMdf qF mYnUM vI koeI hwk nhI sI bxdf quhfnUM puCx df ik iswK Drm dy pRcfr vfsqy qusIN kI kIqf hY. jdoN qusIN hux ieh kMm ÈurU kr hI ilaf hY qF ieh dwsx dI ikRpflqf krnI jI ik qusIN kdI lwK do lwK rupY iswK Drm dy pRcfr leI afpxI injI jyb ivcoN Krcy hn jF aYvYN zIgF hI mfrdy ho?

quhfzf vIr,

gurcrn isMG (ijAux vflf) brYNptn.

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(28/03/08)
zf: gurdyv isMG iswDU

Dear Editor Sahib Ji,

Sat Sri Akal.

I was shocked to note that Dr Dilgeer Ji's book wont be published because he has no money and those who promised are not keeping their word. It is shameful. I have seen Dal Khlsa Alliance website. They offer money to publish books on Sikhism. Where are they? Where is Singh Sabha Canada? Where is World Sikh Organization? What is being done by International Sikh Youth Federation? What is then the role of Gurdwaras.

Are there no genuine Sikh businessmen or professionals?

It is shame for the Sikh leaders and organisations.

Sorry for Panth.

Sorry if I have said any harsh word while TELLING THE TRUTH.

(If there is any genuine Sikh donor, please contact Dr Dilgeer at:

Tel 00 91 94171 83277

With no malice, a Panthik Dardi

Dr Gurdev Singh Sidhu

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(26/03/08)
jsbIr isMG afstRylIaf

Dear editor,
Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki Fateh||

Sikhi is a unique religion and it got a unique philosphy which is answer of most of world problems. But if we look at sikh diaspora, they are influenced by other philosphies in masses. Part of this is human nature but the main reason is non propagation of Sikh thought.
If we look at our past, thousands sikhs joined Arya Samaj which was though little bit rationalist but certainly favouring Vedas over Satguru Granth Sahib. Many Sikhs were influenced by Swami Ram Tirth and his mission which include our beloved one Pro Puran Singh.
Then appeared Nirankari mission(Fake one) and hundreds of thousands joined this mission. They were saying that they are not a religion, but their so called Gurus and religious books were treated more pious than sikhs.
Similar case is Radha Swamis (Sacha Sauda is a part of this) which is joined by millions of Guru Nanak followers. One of my close relative is a follower of them. On one of my visits they asked to listen a lecture of Charan Singh. His lecture was fully based on Gurbani and foolish sikhs were treating a postman a Guru. Why our people do not listen to our missionaries instead go on supporting dummies.Reasons might be many but one which is hard to ignore is failure from our side to produce quality dedicated missionaries and failure to read psyche of listeners. Our missionaries are same for toddlers, youth and elders. They are same for illiterate and highly educated people. They are same for insane or sane. Our organisations should discuss this issue from heart and try to find answers with scientific knowledge and Gurbani teachings.
Another form of influence which made a bigger loss from above was from Communists or so called Tarksheels. Unfortunately I spents years of my precious life with members of Tarksheel society and nearly came under their influence. God bestowed His mercy and got me out of their influence. Our missionaries are influenced by their thoughts. Last year on behalf of Sikh Khalsa Mission, we distributed a CD of International Sikh Missionary Pro Inder Singh Ghagga in which he mentioned about Bhagat Prahlad. It is a general consent that Bhagat Prahlad is mythical hero whose example Guru Sahib mentioned in Gurbani to preach sikhs a full faith in God who is protector of us. Pro.Inder Singh in his CD mentioned Prahlad as real but not as hero instead a villain. After spending years with the members of so called Tarksheel Society I immediately recognised his thought. I did not say anything other than good wishes for him. Now when Punjab assembly banned a few of books of Tarksheel Society, Pro Ghagga was very eager to issue a statement. The cat is out of bag. Why Pro Sahib has so much love this atheist organisation. Tarksheel society belongs to faithless people. For them all religious people are robbers or exploiters. In other word they treat Guru Nanak Sahib and Sajjan Thug equal. For Tarksheel society donating parts of body by a cancer ridden person (Kishan Bargadi) is more important than family sacrifices of Guru Gobind Singh jee. Years back they write a sarcastic poem in their magazine Tarksheel , titled Naam Dukhan da darroo' clealy quoting Dukh Bhanjan Tera Naam. Guru's order for us is Sakat Sang Naa Keejeyey Dooroh Jaiey Bhag. Saakat is worse than mughad. It is time for us to awake. We should also stop titling our selves like International Sikh missionary or pro unless there is such qualification and we possess it. I would like to mention here about the editor spokesman Sardar Joginder singh who is also giving importance to this society but he can be spared being an editor and victim of so called panthic goveronment.Thanks.

regards,
Jasbir Singh Australia

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(25/03/08)
pRYWs irlIjL

igafnI jfck jI dI ‘ÃÄ drpx’ nfmI nvIN pusqk rlIË ipRMsIpl hirBjn isMG mYmorIal tRst vloN õñúúú rupY ienfm

awj cMzIgV sYktr óô dy gurduafrf sfihb ivKy pMQ dy pRiswD qy pRmfxIk ivdvfn BfeI sfihb ipRMsIpl hirBjn isMG cMzIgV vfilaF dy XfdgrI smfgm smyN iewk ivcfr goÈtI ajoXiq kIqI geI, ijs ivwc BfeI gurbKÈ isMG ÈFq dy gurbfxI kIrqn AuprMq ivÈv pRiswD ivdvfn zf: hrnfm isMG Èfn aqy zf: hrijMdr isMG idlgIr ny ipRMsIpl sfihb jI dI gurmqI sfihqk dyx aqy nËrIey qy pypr pVHy. AunHF disaf ik ipRMsIpl sfihb gurU pMQ nUM smrpq iewk aijhI bhupwKI ÈKsIaq sn, ijhVI ividafrQIaF leI rol mfzl bxI. zf: blkfr isMG, zf: kyhr isMG aqy isMG sfihb pRo: mnjIq isG hurF ivcfr crcf ivwc Bfg lYNidaF ipRMsIpl sfihb nfl sbMDq XfdF qfËf kIqIaF. ivdvfnF, imÈnrI ividafrQIaF aqy gurmiq sfihq dIaF pRymI iswK sMgqF dy BrvyN iekwT ivwc sfihbËfdmjfbf juJfr isMG imÈnrI kflj ropV dy ipRsIpl bljIq isMG jI nUM ipRMsIpl hirBjn isMG aYvfrz nfl snmfnq kIqf igaf. pMjfbI XUnIvristI pitaflf dy vfeIs cFslr zf: jspfl isMG jI duafrf iswK sMgqF dy KuÈI Bry jYkfiraF dI gUMj ivwc igafnI jgqfr isMG jfck jI dI ‘ÃÄ drpx’ nfmI pusqk rlIË kIqI. AunHF afiKaf ik jfck jI dI ieh pusqk gurbfxI df mUl-qwq hY, ijhVI gurmiq dI isDFqk ivafiKaf ivwc iewk mIl-pwQr sfibq hoeygI. pRcfrk sjxF leI vI ieh iewk anUTI sugfq hY. ipRMsIpl hirBjn isMG mYmorIrl tRst vloN ipRMsIpl siqnfm isMG hmrfË ny ies pusqk leI õñúúú rupY df ienfm aYlfn kIqf. pr, jfck jI ny ienfm df aÈIrvfd vjoN iewk ruipaf rKidaF bfkI mfieaf tRst rfhIN ipRMsIpl sfihb dIaF pusqkF Cfpx leI vrqx dI bynqI kr idwqI. iswK Porm ieMk inAUXfrk dy sfbkf pRDfn sR: siqnfm isMG nrUlf ny pusqk leI vDfeI idMidaF òñúú rupY ienfm vjoN idwqy. isMG sfihb igafnI kyvl isMG hurF styj dI syvf inBfeI. igafnI gurbcn isMG QfeIlYNz vfilaF smUh ivdvfnF qy iswK sMgqF nUM jI afieaF afiKaf qy jfck jI ny sfry ivdvfn bulfiraF qy sMgqF df DMnvfd kIqf.

rIpotr: sMdIp isMG, ividafrQI gurmiq igafn imsnrI kflj, jvwdI, luiDafxf.

imqI òõ mfrc òúúø

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(24/03/08)
dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl

holy mhwly qy sMgqF nUM gurU gRMQ sfihb dI srvAuWcqf leI cYlMj bx cuwky dsm gRMQ bfry svyr qy Èfm dy ÈYÈn ivwc jfxU krvfieaf igaf.

PrIdfbfd ivwc holy mhwly dy avsr `qy hox vfly smfgm ivwc dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYsnl vwloN vI sYmInfr df afXojn kIqf igaf sI ijs df smF Èfm df sI. ies smfgm ivwc keI ivdvfn swjx ÈmUlIaq krx leI puwjy sn. sYmInfr df smF Èfm df hox kfrx kuwJ ivdvfnF vwloN svyry dy ÈYÈn ivwc vI ÈmUlIaq kIqI geI aqy ivdvfnF vwloN guru gRMQ sfihb dI srvAuNcqf dI gwl kIqI geI aqy srvAuNwcqf leI bxy sB qoN vwzf Kqrf aKOqI dsm gRMQ bfry sMgqF nUM jfxU krfieaf igaf styj skwqr dI BUimkf inBfAuNdy hoey mMc dy knvInr s[ Aupkfr isMG ny sMgqF nUM jfxkfrI idwqI ik iks qrHF dsm ipqf dy nF dy nfl aÈlIlqf BrI pusqk nUM joV ky guru gRMQ sfihb jI df ÈrIk pYdf krx dIaF koJIaF cflF clIaF jf rhIaF hn. s[ joigMdr isMG muwK sMpfdk rojfnf spoksmYn ny sMgqF nfl ivcfr sFJy krdy hoey ikhf ik iks qrHF nfl aKOqI dsm gRMQ dy pRcfr leI aKOqI sMqf vwloN mnsUby GV ky guru gRMQ sfihb jI df siqkfrq drËf aKOqI aÈlIl dsm gRMQ nUM idvfAux dIaF cflF clIaF jf rhIaF hn. AunHF ikhf ik drbfr sfihb dy cfr drvfjy hn ijs nfl koeI vI iswKI dy vyVy ivwc af skdf hY pr hux iewk pMjvF drvfjf jo dsm gRMQ df bxf idwqf igaf hY jo ik cfroN rfh bMd krky iswK nUM iPr qoN ibpr rIqF vwl lY jfx df rfh hY. s[ rijMdr isMG ny guru gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAuNcqf leI cYÜMj bx cuwky aKOqI dsm gRMQ bfry Aus dI sbdfvlI bfry sMKyp ivwc jfxkfrI idwqI. AunHF ikhf ik nMdyV qoN kwZy gey jfigRqI Xfqrf dy mksd óúú sfl guru dy nfl nUM bVy duK Bry aMdfj ivwc disaf ik ieh lok qF óúú sYNkz vI guru dy nfl nhIN jo guru dI byadbI krx dy ijMmyvfr hn. ipRMsIpl nirMdr isMG jMmU ny vI sfihb guru gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAuNcqf qy afAux vfly cYlMËF bfry disaf. svyr qoN lY ky Èfm qk clx vfly ies smfgm ivwc Èfm dy ÈYÈn ivwc ivdvfnf dy dUroN dUroN afey hox krky sYmInfr nUM ivdvfnF dI slfh nfl pRbMDkF vwloN iewk Cotf rUp dy idwqf igaf. ies ÈYÈn ivwc zf[ gurmuK isMG, lyKk hrI rqn Xukqf, pRo[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf, jsivMdr isMG dubeI aqy mMc dy koafrzInytr s[ suirMdr isMG ny ÈmUlIaq kIqI. sYmInfr dy aMq ivwc sfry bulfiraF vwloN iewk sur ho ky ieh gwl khI geI ik iswKF df ieko iewk guru guru gRMQ sfihb jI hn. guru gRMQ sfihb jI dI srvAuWcqf dy hfmI dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc AudoN qk ies jMg nUM lVdf rhygf jd qk iswKI dy vyVy ivwc bicqr nftk aKOqI dsm gRMQ dIaF aÈlIÜqf nUM iswKI dy vyVy ivcoN bfhr nhI kwZ idwqf jFdf. svyr dy smfgm ivwc s[ qrsym isMG Drm pRcfr kmytI, ÈRmxI gurduafrf pRbMDk kmytI vwloN vI ÈmUlIaq kIqI geI. zf[ gurmuK isMG vwloN aKOqI dsm gRMQ bfry ilKI pusqk gurbfxI dI ksvwtI qy dsm gRMQ dI prK pRkfÈk dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc, vI irlIË kIqI geI.

s[ ikRpfl isMG cyarmYn mfqf sfihb kOr gurmiq kflj PrIdfbfd, gurmiq pRcfr jwQf idwlI dy pRDfn s[ bldyv isMG, gurmiq aYjUkyÈn sYNtr, idwlI dy ipRMsIpl s[ surjIq isMG, guriswK PYimlI kwlb luiDafxf dy pRojYkt ieMjfrË s[ pRBjoq isMG, sRomxI iswK smfj mohflI dy pRDfn krnl gurdIp isMG, BfeI lflo PfAuNzyÈn dy pRDfn s[ jsivMdr isMG dubeI, Kflsf pMcfieq dy knvInr s[ rijMdr isMG, s[ rivMdr isMG cMzIgVH, gurmiq pRcfr jwQf biTMzf qoN s[ ikRpfl isMG, gurmIq isMG kfdIafnI kpUrQlf, iswK imÈnrI kflj kpUrQlf dy srkl ieMjfrË, lyKk hrI rqn Xukqf PrIdkot, s[ jsvMq isMG PrIdkot, bhfdrpur pMjfb qoN s[ hrlfj isMG, ipRMsIpl nirMdr isMG jMmU, s[ ieMdr isMG Gwgf, PrIdfbfd gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf nM-ñ, qoN s[ suMdr isMG, gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf nM-õ dy pRDfn s[ amrjIq isMG, gurduafrf isMG sBf sYktr -òò dy pRDfn s[ jsbIr isMG, gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf sYktr-õõ dy Aup pRDfn s[ srbjIq isMG, gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf sYink kflOnI dy s[ srdfr isMG, gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf pMjfbI kflOnI dy jnrl skwqr s[ suKdyv isMG aqy pRDfn bldyv isMG gurduafrf sRI guru isMG sBf sYktr ñõ qoN kmytI mYNbr s[ gurnfm isMG, kyNdrI isMG sBf dy knvInr s[ KËfn isMG, guriswK PYimlI klwb dy koafrzInytr s[ rxjIq isMG, s[ iÈMgfrf isMG, dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl qoN knvInr s[ Aupkfr isMG, koafrzInytr s[ suirMdr isMG, Kflsf nfrI mMc dy knvInr hrbMs kOr, bIbI mohn kOr, bIbI mihMdr kOr, bIbI bldyv kOr, XMg iswK aYsoiseyÈn qoN s[ BuipMdr isMG, s[ guirMdr isMG afid jwQybMdIaF Èfml hoeIaF

vwloN

s[ Aupkfr isMG PrIdfbfd

knvInr dsm gRMQ ivcfr mMc ieMtrnYÈnl

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(24/03/08)
guriswK PYimÜI klwb PrIdfbfd

afDuinkqf dI aMnHI dOV `c'Èfml ho ky, Gon mon pfqrF nUM apxf afdrÈ bxf ky, afpxy iswKI srUp aqy isDFqF nUM iqlFjlI dy rhI iswK nOjvfn pIVHI nUM ieh ivÈvfs idvfAux leI ik Auh sfbq sUrq rih ky vI, mIzIey dy Kyqr `c'afpxy iewk ivÈyÈ mukfm hfisl kr skdy hn, iesy hI lVI qihq holy mhwly dy mOky guriswK PYmlI klwb PrIdfbfd vloN ipRMsË Kflsf aqy ipRMs Kflsf mukfblf krvfieaf igaf. ijs `c' òú dy krIb kuVIaF aqy muMizaF ny ihwsf lYNidaF ijQy rYNp qy qur ky afpxI ÈrIrk suMdrqf df lohf mnvfieaf, AuQy gurmiq sbMDI jwjF vloN puwCy gey suaflF df juafb dy ky sroiqaF nUM mMqr mugD kridaF ieh drÈfieaf ik Auh smyq mIzIaf dy hr Kyqr'c'afpxI iewk ivlwKx QF bxf skdy hn. ies pRogrfm nUM vyKx leI hËfrF dI igxqI ivwc nOjvfn bicaF dI BIV AumVI sI afzItoirafm dy grfAuNz Plor aqy Prst Plor pUrI qrHF nfl KcfKc Biraf ipaf sI. lokF ny Qwly bih ky vI pRogrfm df luqP AuTfieaf

ies Èo `c' ihwsf lYx vfly muMzy-kuVIaF ny sroiqaF nfl afpxy ivcfr sFJy kridaF iewk sur ho ky ieh gwl khI ik asIN dunIaF dy lokF nUM ieh ds dyxf cfuhMdy hF ik sfbq sUrq iswK nOjvfn kuVIaF-muMzy sMsfr dy iksy vI Kyqr `c' apxf lohf mMnvf skdy hn, ijs `c' iswKI srUp qy isDFq koeI rukfvt nhIN bxdy.

pMdrF idnF dy bhuq Gwt smyN ivwc hI ivigafpn, coxF, tryinMg klfsF qy hor keI kMm kIqy gey. ies pRogrfm dI Kfs gwl ieh sI ik ies ivwc tryinMg ÈYÈn dy dOrfn nOjvfn bwicaF ny gurmiq dy jfxkfrF vwloN roËfnf gurmiq bfry BrpUr jfxkfrI vI hfsl kIqI sI. ies pRqIXoigqf ivwc idwlI, PrIdfbfd, blwBgV qoN pRqIXogIaF ny ihwsf ilaf sI. ies pRogrfm dy koafrzInytr s[ kmljIq isMG, cyarmYn guru nfnk sInIar sYkMzrI skUl, s[ jsivMdr isMG, s[ mnpRIq isMG, s[ suKpRIq isMG rYpIar ievMt kMpnI vwloN BrpUr sihXog pRfpq hoieaf.

ies pRogrfm dI aYNkirMg bIbI Èvyqf kOr aqy bIbI hrbMs kOr vwloN bfKUbI inBfeI geI. ies pRogrfm dy afrMB ivwc sMgqF nUM pihlF bIbI hrbMs kOr vwloN disaf igaf ik iks qrHF asI "gurbfxI bxIaY" anusfr afpxf jIvn ibqfAuxf hY aqy aMdroN qy bfhrhu inrml ho ky sicafr bxnf hY. iËMdgI ivwc hr kMm leI sfnUM Èbd guru qoN agvfeI lYxI cfhIdI hY.

ies pRogrfm ivwc Aucycy qOr’ qy muwK mihmfn vwjoN bRYNz abyNszr bIbI avnIq kOr "kOr afP df iear, òúúö, bRYNz abYNszr ipRMs Kflsf s[ mnpRIq isMG bYst PotojYnIk Pys imstr isMG ieMtrnYÈnl òúú÷, s[ jspRIq isMG imstr isMG aMbflf koiraO gRfPr, imstr isMG òúúö, s[ jgjIq isMG bRYNz abYNszr ieMzIaf tuwzy mYgËIn aqy imstr isMG ieMzIaf dy Pfienilst afid nUM AunHF dI AuplbDIaF leI iewk sfbq sUrq iswK vwjoN siqkfiraf igaf.

ies pRogrfm ivwc jwjF dI BUimkf s[ rijMdr isMG knvInr Kflsf pMcfieq, s[